Were South Africans better off under apartheid? Trevor Noah.

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Nirav Ramdarie : We weren't "enslaved". We were economically restricted where we couldn't even share spaces with other races. Otherwise crime, job opportunity, education everything was better during the apartheid time was of a better standard in terms of living

Helena Nickerson : What Trevor Noah fails to mention is that the only thing that changed in South Africa is the colour of the slave master.

Gideon Horwitz : My family in South Africa would beg to differ the story's I hear from them I was there in 2016 it's was no rainbow nation no post racial paradise Trevor has the privilege that he's now living in America to spout pro anc bullshit they have destroyed my country and its difficult cause my family supported the anc till 2009.

Chill Out : Stop foreign aid to South Africa.

Wendy De Freitas : What does Trevor know he was born in 1984 , his born a crime is a joke as the then immorality act was abolished in 1985. I a white South African lived in a multiracial, cultural neighborhood during apartheid. One half of my family was marching and getting arrested and the other half were doing border duty and getting killed. To the majority of South Africans it was about fighting the communist not the black man but the black man had gone over to the communist side. Many black people fought in the SA Army. Trevor is not an authority on so called apartheid.

Peter-john De Jong : Rhodesia, strong economy,, independent thriving developed country, once the breadbasket of africa, now a third world country,

Peter-john De Jong : Trevor lies, most natives moved to south africa during apartheid because the economy was booming. There was never slavery in south africa....

AltRockLover : Trevor will make a fine communist.

Brent Hass : I wonder if the speakers in this video end up seeing the comments. The blacks are destroying infrastructure not building it. They are about consuming, not producing

Martin Abrahams : O really? Whose reality is that Trevor? Let us see who benefited from Apartheid . Since 1970 the budget for black education was raised by about 30% per year every year. More than any other government department.  In the period 1955 -1984 the amount of black school students increased 31 times from 35,000 to 1,096 000.  65% of black South African children were at school compared to Egypt 64%, Nigeria 57%, Ghana52%, Tanzania50% and Ethiopia 29%. Amongst the adults of South Africa, 71% could read and write (80% between the ages 12 and 22). Compare this to Kenya 47%, Egypt 38%, Nigeria 34% and Mozambique at 26%. In South Africa, the whites built 15 new classrooms for blacks every working day, every year. At 40 children per class it meant space for an additional 600 black students every day!  In 1985 there were 42,000 Blacks at 5 universities in South Africa, about the same amount at the universities of the homelands (another 40,000 at another five).  In an article called “Die Afrikaner” 11 Feb 1987, the quarterly magazine called “Vox Africana Nr 29 4/87 stated that,  South Africa had 4,8 million whites and 18,2 million blacks in 1987. The whites paid 77% of the taxes and the blacks only 15%...despite this...56% of the government budget was spent on blacks.  During the time of Dr. Verwoerd. the living standards of Blacks were rising at 5,4% per year against that of the whites at 3,9% per year. In 1965 the economic growth of South Africa was the second highest in the world at 7,9%. The rate of inflation was a mere 2% per annum and the prime interest rate only 3% per annum. Domestic savings were so great that South Africa needed no foreign loans for normal economic expansion.  Even Lord Deedes admitted, “White South Africa grew to become the economic giant of the continent, the other members of the Commonwealth virtually sank into poverty.”  At the height of Apartheid in 1978 Soweto had 115 football fields, 3 Rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 Cricket fields, 2 Golf courses, 47 Tennis courts, 7 swimming pools built to Olympic standards, 5 Bowling alleys, 81 Netball fields, 39 children play parks, and countless civic halls, movie houses and clubhouses.  In addition to this, Soweto had 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 Technical Colleges, 8 clinics, 63 child day care centres, 11 Post Offices, and its own fruit and vegetable market.  There were 2300 registered companies that belonged to black businessmen, about 1000 private taxi companies. 3% of the 50,000 vehicle owners in 1978 were Mercedes Benz owners. Soweto alone had more cars, taxis, schools, churches and sport facilities than most independent countries in Africa. The Blacks of South Africa had more private vehicles than the entire white population of the USSR at the time.  Today Soweto has modern shopping malls like, Dobsonville Shopping Centre. In 2005 the Protea Gardens Mall opened. This was followed by the Baramall Shopping Centre and the Jabulani Shopping complex and the Maponya Mall. Experts say that Soweto has as much as 25% oversupply of retail space.  The biggest hospital in the world, Baragwanath with 3200 beds and at its peak during Apartheid with almost 8000 staff, had 23 operation theatres fitted out with the most modern medical equipment that existed in the world. Blacks were treated here, operated on...at full state costs to the white-taxpayers for unlimited periods. The budget of this hospital was and is higher than the yearly budget of most small member states of the United Nations.  Next door to Baragwanath is the St. John’s Eye Clinic. The clinic was world famous for the treatment of Glaucoma, Cataracts, traumatic eye injuries and rare tropical diseases.  Baragwanath in 1978 employed 450 medical doctors in full-time service. It treated 112 000 in-patients and 1.62 million out-patients per year. The children and infant death rate with 34.8 per 1000 was lower than Harlem in New York.  In 1982 alone, this hospital performed 898 heart operations of world quality.  Ironically...90% of the blood donors for this hospital were whites, who donated blood free of charge, totally voluntarily...to save black lives. (Quoted from The Citizen, 2 April 1987).  Whites have already given blacks their blood. What more do they want?

Kosmos de Kosmopoliet : Lies and propaganda This token comedian consciously doesn't name a single fact, because every single fact leads to the conclusion that South Africa was doing better under apartheid in all measures; crime rates, employment, litteracy, poverty, disease, infrastructure, GDP, etc

Houws Houlinou : Why is it that someone needs to give you a fishing rod to fish. No one owes you anything.

Cheetah Cheetah : basically every gov dept is now bankrupt.. list goes on and on... but please all the countries that forced this country into this direction with sanctions.... come to the rescue.... u were so clever... SA was the strongest economy in Africa feeding all sub sahara...with a Rand almost as strong as us$.  now 15-1....  everybody quiet...?

JulesRouleau : South Africa was not slavery!

007specter 007 : you were never slaves , in fact you had your own place ,your own hospital ,your own everything ,you stayed your side and i at mine , that's apartheid ,the only reason why some of you worked for us because you wanted a job ....now that most of us don't have a job ,your people still asked for job from us...but we can't give them job if there is no money to pay them and in South Africa today is this,you and your people are too much for what the country can handle ,there isn't enough jobs for every single one of you so they fire the whites to solve the problem but then you create another problem for yourself ,slaves ? ,i think not buster.

Ven One : South Africa is pushing communism, and is far worse now than "apartheid" ever was before. Also apartheid was to keep the culture's separated because of the massive differences and these blacks want a communist way of life. They are barbaric, not all of them but a GREAT number of them. It's great seeing the leftists getting their own medicine back around the world now as people from africa are now in our lands causing havoc. Deal with it, you wanted multiculturalism, well now you going to have to suck it up until the end of world war III. And guess what, it's foretold that south africa is returned to the people who developed and cultivated the land from the beginning, yes the Boer. Think it's a joke, read up on Nikolaas Van Rensburg, he has never been wrong.

Edward Cassidy : Is it true under apartheid murders averaged 168 per year-now over twenty thousand per year?

Terry Hill : Apartheid was just about gone by 1987, Trevor Noah was born in 1984. Most laws had been ignored for many years and were abolished in 1990. Thus no South African has experienced Apartheid for 30 years. Noah was nine years old when an ANC government took power and began plundering the country to reward its leaders and cronies. It is hard to see what credibility this so-called comedian with his two jokes actually has to talk on the subject.

Jaco Botha : Apartheid was not better than today. It was a system designed to let the different cultures govern them self (the bantu states that was implemented) and it ended up being a racist system of segregation. Rather be a poor free man than a rich slave. However, the ANC didn't make it any better either. They fought for freedom and they think they are still fighting. The majority of the whites voted for this change to happen and after the famous yes/no vote it was decided to go ahead and free Mandela. After that they quickly realize that they have a rich country in the palm of their hands and thus the corruption started. It crippled the infrastructure very badly. They overtaxed employers and thus employees had to go. I had to let my maid go because I was forced to pay her a minimum wage I couldn't afford. I also work for a salary. They have it in their power to make this country an economic powerhouse in Africa but the majority of them was trained by Marxists in Russia and thus their economic views will never change and it will push towards a socialistic system that has been proven to fail even if it sounds wonderful on paper. The only thing that was "better" under apartheid was the infrastructure. We had schools that worked, hospitals that gave free health care, a police system that worked and because of capital punishment, crime was at its lowest. But the people wasn't free. It is sad that today in "freedom" so many of them actually long back to a system that enslaved them just so they can live, eat, be educated, be healthy and have a job despite of their dignity. Apartheid will never return but I hope that the younger generation will notice that the only way to economic freedom is to dump all the discriminatory economic laws, alleviate taxes in order to stimulate investment and that will ensure more jobs. It worked for America, it can work here as well.

Maurice Harting : Trevor Noah is a typical left wing liberal. South Africa under apartheid was economically much better for everyone (whites, coloureds, and blacks) while it was a discriminatory system based on race. When apartheid came to an end and blacks moved in positions of power the economic pie became smaller the black population became worse off economically. Now they are blaming the remaining whites for their current economic hardships and force whites off their lands and force whites to sacrifice their businesses as if somehow that will solve South Africa`s economic downturn. South Africa will become like so many other african countries where blacks rule ... a place of economic and social turmoil where few can enjoy life without hardship. Socialism has not worked, will not work and cannot work economically for the tax burdens will only increase while the economy shrinks! By the way, I have lived in and went to school in South Africa for a couple of years in Durban and Mooi River and so I have seen what went on under Apartheid, both the good and the bad.

Mike Grace : Trevor Noah is literally ignorant. He’s a comedian trying to be a politician. Poor guy, not a very good politician and definitely not a funny comedian.

Black Sun Rising : Yeah they were so "oppressed" they had their own states and got millions from white taxpayers and still insisted on taking everything. If it was "reverse Apartheid" now the whites would have their own state and peace. Forcibly mix everyone together and everyone gets screwed, as Europe and the US is finding out today. The reason Apartheid fell wasn't because it was too closed, it was because it became too open.....allowing the blacks entry through the dompasses, funding them, building for them, allowing infiltrators into the NP. Its the NP's fault though, for not sticking to their segregationist principles and thinking they could appease communists. Moral of the story, give but a little and they'll take everything. Communism 101

bobi carl : Trevor Noah escaped to the United States and now is a apologies for the Marxist ANC

Nuf Said : Trevor, wake up yr coffee is cold.....stop lying to the public......

Mellivora Capensis : Compared to Blacks, anything run by Whites is better.

Theodore Williams : It's like adults who say things were better when they were kids with no responsibilty living under their parents roof

Smit Lord : Black life expectancy and literacy steadily rose under apartheid and has steadily declined since the end of apartheid.

The aussie patriot : Crime and corruption sky rocketted to the point where most white cops were fired and the new black police became corrupt criminal's and so former white police formed security firm's and are the only effective response security organisations in the country. laws and policies that would effect whites forced wealthy and middle class whites from the country causing economic downsyndrome, violence and crime also went up causing more poverty and more wealthy and middle class flight. Infastructure is now lagging behind and south africa will soon look like an entire third world country.

Antonie de Vry : I have watched this guy doing his hate thing on Trump.....which really reflects his lack of morality rather than those he demonizes.

Kobus Labuschagne : Yes it was a first world country.

Christo Van Aswegen : This imbeciles have no idea what hes talkimg about . In apartheid food was cheap and everybody had work .now there are more than 60% unemployment in sa food is extremely expensive .this is due to killing of farmers and the small towns become ghost towns . Plus there was no slavery .people just worked for small salaries because the rand was so strong against the dollar !

David Harrison : a great coutry with a great future is now going to be yet another Zimbabwe. a third world toilet with no future at all . without the white man they cannot even feed themselves .its pathetic .

Gerald O'Hare : SA is a failed state now. I used to support the ANC but not anymore. Trevor is an opportunist who fled SA and now pontificates his views in a safe place far from home.

Wicus Roets : Dear Trevor. Since you've played witness (after your 1984 birth date) on how people of different colour were not allowed to even walk on the same side of the road, as per your "Born a crime" show, PLEASE advise why black folk is walking AND working amongst white folk, without fear, in Jamie Uys' "Funny People - 1977", "Funny People II - 1983" and even Leon Schuster's "You must be joking" (1980's) series, which was filmed DURING the apartheid period. Then PLEASE explain why it is so dangerous for white folk to walk freely in black areas ? Clearly you're missing the "root cause" analysis of what is REALLY wrong in dear olde South Africa. Or are the Hollywood drugs gonna mush your brains as it's done Charlize's ?

Hannodb1961 : Very balanced and fair answer. South Africa is being oversimplified, and it has been ruined by people who insist on simple answers to complex questions.

Deus Dex : Whites are regularly being raped tortured and murdered on their own land in South Africa and state enforced affirmative action has only served to increase incompetence and corruption in business and the government. Apartheid was awful but what has replaced apartheid is arguably worse and is killing South Africa and the few competent and capable people left there.

Veziley Kerzoyayev : I knew Trevor Noah won't be able to answer her properly and he'd lose every debate with a White South African any day.About the fishing quote this the real scenario in South Africa. Black South Africans want all the fishing tools owned by White South Africans of which they worked hard for and if the black South Africa still won't be able to catch the fish then they'd blame it on white South Africans

Camel76 : Africa wasn't under so-called apartheid. The people who built South Africa were in control. Because they are the only ones in Africa who can run the country.

Obakeng Mokhua : Free!? What freedom is he talking about!? We are economically disadvantaged and enslaved! Show me black business in South Africa and I will reward you, I detest people that go to the West’s first world countries and then claim national pride of the cesspool that they escaped from! It’s double speak at the least and very deceiving.

Thomas Harrison : Bantus are not even native

Cheetah Cheetah : don't understand Trevor. how is apartheid compared to enslaved? nobody was enslaved...they were apart..... thought that was what it mend?  was SA not devided into 13 homelands with its own presidents, each with Universities and schools and own military?

Comedy, Music, More; Life : Who made that infra-structure for that small percentage, Noah? Not the people who can't do it for themselves and who need someone else to do it for them, whether it be whites or Chinese.

Matthew James McMaster : The answer is yes it was, seeing my country failing is a shame...

Billy Murray : It was better because native Africans are incapable of developing their own successful nation. It has never happened and it it never will. I personally think whites should have just let them be. We both would have been better off.

johnny de beer : yes, a comedians opinion on RSA is just about right, fits in well with how the country is now governed.

Wendy De Freitas : Maybe paradise for you Trevor but we were " locked" out , we can't work in our own country not even menial jobs , if we say anything then hell breaks lose. I think every country is going to start " understanding" what happened during Apartheid as their countries are threatened by uncontrollable immigration from Africa as they start to see their numbers decline and Africans rise, they will realize the threat that your socialist ideas bring to a Christian country. How you want to be number 1 and you don't want to share its not your nature. Africans are tribal and consume smaller tribes. You talk of land theft but your people are the ones who murdered and destroyed smaller tribes and the natural inhabitants of South Africa the Xhosa and Zulu are not indigenous to South Africa. You don't have any claim. But the wheel turns and us Afrikaners are people of the " land" we will survive and thrive. Zim, Zambia . Tanzania ., Congo and on and on shows what will happen to the African. I have no idea why the African American thinks his African brother will welcome him they don't like it when you call yourself " African. "

Lunga Thyobeka : did you hear she visited soweto most white south africans have never set foot in a township.

Kabelo Maragelo : Better under apartheid ? What type of question is that ? Trevor you didn't have to go in depth to answer that question, like tf?

Drikus Diamond : If you want an informed opinion don't ask a moron like Trevor Noah. He is a phony. He knows nothing about politics or anything else that matters. He is willing to be bought for money to promote the liberal agenda. And if you don't remember, let me help you. All the late night hosts and their "informed" declarations that mr Trump would loose in a landslide. The rest is history. Dont waste your time with these people, they are all phony. Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, Trevor Noah and the whole bunch. Just adding, I did not listen to Trevor's answer because I don't care. I am not interested in hearing the opinion of somebody who practically only has a big mouth, no knowledge and trying the be a politician and a clown at the same time

Smith : Blacks will never develop a city, create growth or build buildings.. and history proves that..