The Game Grumps Conspiracy - Internet Mysteries

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Go to to get a free trial and 10% off your first purchase. Jontron and Egoraptor created one of the most iconic channels on YouTube with GameGrumps, but somewhere along the way things went wrong. Co-written by Bedhead Bernie: E3 Timeline: #GameGrumps

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Clancy C. : The biggest mystery is how jontron can afford to live in NYC by uploading once a year

No Chill : Um, Jontron is the bird. The hairy bearded guy is just Jon's pet.

StarlessBandNJ : About a year ago, I ran into JonTron at a bar in Manhattan after I went to a King Crimson concert. I was a little bit (very) buzzed and I approached him and asked him for a picture. He was so so super cool to me and chatted with my friends and I for a pretty long while before he had to return to the friend he came with. The guy was a total sweetheart and also funny as hell in person. Really cool experience and night.

Skeleton thing : could flex tape have fixed it?

NintendoCapriSun : Boy, this brings back memories.

Shesez : yes but who was the camera guy filming the camera guy

Joshua Tucker : I've got a theory: Jon JAFARI is actually Jafar from the Aladdin Series. Similar to Jafar, Jafari has a parrot as a pet. Jacques and Yago are both more intelligent than their owners, as is clear on the JonTron youtube page. Its clear that Jon has magical powers similar to Jafar. It is also clear that they both have the same beard, "JonTron", if that is his real name, simply cut it back. Jon does tons of musicals, and in the movie it is shown that Jafar can sing, as Aladdin is a musical. In the movie Jafar is constantly trying to steal the hearts of women, and JonJafari stole our hearts, and what does he do? NEVER FUCKING UPLOADS. Yago is a talking parrot, Jacques can speak as well. Yago defeats Jafar in the Aladdin series, and several time on the youtube page "JonTron" we can see that Jacques is constantly trying to guide Jon to be a better person. Does Yago know the future? Will Jon escape his inevitable fate of becoming a Geni that will be destroyed by a parrot? We are yet to find out. Hidden right under your nose Anon.

Edward Carnby : Eh, I'm not buying the "Jon was so hungover that he missed 4 days of E3" theory. Strong alcoholics don't need that long to get over a hangover, and if he's not a regular drinker then there's no way that he'd have put enough booze away to put himself out of the picture for that long without requiring a stomach pump at the local hospital. I'm going to say the more likely scenario was that he simply didn't give a fuck because he was done with GG at that point.

Anym : there was ALOTA DAMAGE

KatyushaRockets : So Jon is a raging alcoholic depressive and Arin is an abusive egotistical dictator

M B : Waiting for Nicole to comment “nah” on this video

Neightrix Prime : Jon may have just been unhappy dedicating so much time to one thing, especially since natural humor isn't always going to jive with a schedule. Jon doesn't seem like the conflicting type, so he probably kept at it until he couldn't do it any more - I wouldn't call that a falling out.

CJTH3BEAST : TotalBiscuit took the truth to his grave

David Jaime : "there is no physical trauma involved" sound like very carefully chosen words to me.

DannyTheConsumer : Why can't it simply just be, not big reason? What if it's as simple as "we're getting kinda big, the one year anniversary is coming up. I feel like I'm about to make a big, long-term commitment to this channel. I kinda wanna have more freedom than that. Always wanted to live in New York and now we're talking about big contracts with Polaris and I kinda wanna just be more chill than that for now. I might just back down from the Grumps cause if I wait on it, it'll be harder to leave and do my own thing." I put no thought into this idea, it was just a passing thought.

zeoxdragon : Jontron accidentally deleted the save they had from Sonic 06 and said "welp, I guess we have to play it from the beginning again!, then Arin kicked him from Game Grumps.

Zach CG : The truth died with TB.

Trash Panda : GRaNdmAH BroWNeE's CHocLAte cHuNkER WunCAh buNKeHs NOwuH WEtH EvIN BiGer cHuncS oF ChOcLAt chUncAHS.

Jesse Lindsey : I dunno, man. If I was friends with someone for a few years and then we stopped being friends for one reason or another, I'd clam up super hard if people who knew the two of us kept asking me why we aren't friends anymore. Even if it wasn't a very personal reason (ie we just drifted apart, as opposed to how I shat on his bed and he responded by shooting me in the kneecap), if people kept coming up to me and went "dude, why don't you hang out with Jimmy Jams no more?" "What happened between you two? Did he think he was better than you? Did you get drunk and punch him?" "Maaaaan, what happened to the good old days when you and The Jams used to chill and play vidya all the time?" I'd be weirded the fuck out. Like, me and Jimmy Jams are just two regular people and suddenly everyone ever keeps bugging us about why we aren't friends any more. Don't you realize how fucking creepy and uncomfortable that is?

???????????? : Egoraptor does have a huge toxic ego that's for sure.

Noah P : Jontron punched Suzy and flew away on Jauqe.

The Noodle : Good God that was 2013 I feel old

OldSchoolGamer1203 : Okay there I watched it. You win YouTube algorithm. For a week I've been pursued by this video. I admit defeat.

funkeln : i mean i'd like to know what happened too - if jon wanting to focus on his own channel isn't the true story - but this really isn't any of our business. can't we just let the topic go?

BIGJRU : I couldn’t help but laugh at the thumbnail.

Tim Nougat : Ross is still in game grumps, he is just working behind the scenes as their head of animation

Jacob Sheerin : Did he say ross and barry left? Cause thats just not true

Metallicfender : Jon already explained on Ethan's Podcast, like a year ago, that it was due to creative differences.

Duncan Martin : *ArE YoU A GrApHiC DeSiGnEr lOoKiNg fOr wOrK?!*

Jonathan Shaw : but arin was in the starcade finale, so it seems like they're okay now

David Smith : I like the metaphorical scene at the end. Hehehehe... It's like...even if your theory is wrong—it's about as relevant as the difference between Pepsi & Coke.

In Progress : The sub reddit already has a hard enough time letting this topic go.. I appreciate the honest approach to this topic and the admission of speculation vs fact; but in my humble opinion, we really don't need this discussion anymore. I don't mean that in a way as to tell you off or to silence you in any way. What I mean is that the discussion no longer has any benefit to anyone. It only seems to stir up negative feelings and cause dangerous claims in regards to the people involved.. Also, many fans have expressed a fatigue from seeing the subject pop up so often on reddit. It's even at a point where Danny has asked for people to just leave it be, and he most likely wasn't even directly involved in their fall out. Jon and Arin may have simply had different visions for the channel while entering legal agreements and that caused some tension, poor behavior, and disagreements. Jon even stated in a panel that it wasn't even that serious of a situation. So maybe it's time to just let this one go.

DaddiEagle : Funny how he never mentioned that Ego stated that he and Jon are still in contact and friends. Their throw down was likely legal and Jon did want to leave to help his channel. You guys worry too much. Both are friends and will be, but Jon wants to do his own thing. He likely just didn't want to have to upload everyday.

Mitch Schaaf : Most of everything brought up here are blind accusations, and the things you actually have evidence for don't lead to a conclusion that the relationship was ended maliciously.

Levvy : JonTron: "I'm leaving game grumps to work on my own channel." Also JonTron: *uploads one or two videos a year*

ru8en v : I think what went down was the same thing that happened to John Frusciante in the Red Hot Chili Peppers: He Just wanted to play music in his favorite band and enjoy himself without the pressure of become famous. When the band became superstars, he began to see it as work and no longer fun. .. ...same with Jon tron and Game Grumps. They blew up fast, and Arin started seeing it as a business, and lucrative, instead of just fucking around in front of the camera, to which Jon no longer wanted to be a part of.

Group2 Gaming : "fans began producing game grumps animations..." *is showing animation by egoraptor*

hugo goulden : Punctuation in your thumbnail dude

Cayden Hicks : maybe jon was burnt out over game grumps because of the "Multiple Videos a Day" thing and wanted to do less videos, and that is why he doesn't publish very often.

Seigi Tendo : Try discussing MARKIPLIER AND YAMIMASH They've never collaborated or talked since the drama when yamimash was accused of being a pedo

Instructionism exe : Jon left willingly... In the 10 minute power theres a clip where arin, dan and ross actually talks about the JonTron Show

Pack1Pick1 : Occam's Razor guys. Jon probably felt overwhelmed with game grumps constant barrage of content and wanted out. Arin probably was pissed because he had a pretty good thing going monetarily, so they may have gotten into a fight which they got over in a year or so. The end.

Puffy the Destroyer : The answer to any gamegrumps theories or questions: Just watch the super best friends instead. They're actually good.

My legs hurt : I heard Jontron went to Arins restaurant, and he ate everything in the restaurant, and Arin had to close the restaurant

defeatereater : Hasn't this already been discussed a ton and settled? I'm pretty sure they kind of made up, and Game Grumps has seen success over the past 5 years with the replacement co-host, Dan. I was hurt at the time mostly because they seemed like they were great friends, and it felt like watching a relationship whither with no real indicator as to why. At this point though, I'm just glad we got what we did with Jon. The topic is exhausting, and it feels gross to be investigating these guys over things that probably influenced their lives in a deeper way than we can understand. Let's just move forward in peace.

CJ 334 : I’m 100% sure his next video will be about Etika. You know gotta get them views and profit off a guy who’s literally having a mental breakdown and is in a mental hospital

Frog : k cool watched that whole video for nothing

Consural : 2:26 "This naturally upset fans because Jon didn't and still doesn't upload frequently." I am now imagining how many GameGrumps episodes with Jon there would be if he didn't leave. God damn it. :(

Carlos Felix : Arin kicked Jon out because he wanted dan to shoot his goo at him