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Zaric Zhakaron : Literary Fiction vs Genre Fiction - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSWjrhpuLEI

Diogenes Castor : Something I noticed about your analysis of Skyrim and ESO is that, while you are critical of them, you also are quick to point out good qualities of the games. Also, in speaking of the older TES titles, you are clear that you a fond of them but you don't ignore their flaws. Zaric, your opinions are pretty obvious. However, your analysis is overall pretty fair that I've seen.

The Poison Bucket : The greatest and most ironic thing about fandoms is that they are usually not the target audience of the product that are a fan of.

Mephilis 78 : Let's face it Zaric, we live in a postmodern, relativistic world, that has a deep seeded hatred for all things related to lore, or cannon. Every franchise that ever existed with a rich and vibrant lore, is now being systematically assassinated. Rian Johnson's Kylo Ren summed it up the best way possible , "Let the past die, kill it if you have to!" That is precisely the goal of all modern media; games, film, television, and theater alike. In fact, even mainstream journalistic media, seems to follow the philosophy. Companies like CNN make statements today, masquerading as facts, thinking that people don't know how to look up older news clips to see how the story has changed.

Jesse McCormick : I think that Fallout: New Vegas and The Witcher 3 are proof that you can make an amazing open world game that's legitimately fun to play AND have an interesting story with compelling characters. While Obsidian didn't have to build a new engine and assets on top of that, CD Projekt Red did, and it still turned out very well.

Not funny : The problem I have with ESO's lore is that I had this view of 2nd Era Tamriel that came from the Pocket Guide to the Empire that I really loved, a land of high magic and technology, where the Sunbirds of Alinor explored the mysteries of aetherius, where dragons and airships soared the sky above the tropical Jungle of Cyrodiil, where most Nords were fierce warriors learned in the ways of the Thu'um and massive living trees walked the forests of Valenwood. As the writing and the setting in the Elder Scrolls series got progressively worse I took refuge in that, in a way. I thought "Yes Cyrodiil is Middle Earth and the Nords are boring as hell now but at least the second Era was cool, imagine how it would be like to have a game set in that time period". Then ESO happened. I know it's my fault for expecting something more than a shallow Elder Scrolls themed themepark but come on, you have a book describing 2nd Era Tamriel in the goddamn games and you still fucked it up.

blondegamerguy : Always remember that before you blame Bethesda Softworks/Game Studios or Todd Howard - they DON'T own rights to the The Elder Scrolls franchise anymore, Zenimax does. They completely sold out to Zenimax, because of financial problems (went almost bankrupt) at the time around when Morrowind was created. Which means ESO, the Creation Club, The Elder Scrolls Legends, etc, there is nothing Todd Howard or Bethesda Softworks/Game Studios can do about it, even if they dislike it and don't want these games/platforms to exist! If the guys at Zenimax say they want the Creation Club and ESO, and Legends, then so be it. Todd Howard has to oblige, or he is gone. Bethesda Softworks/Game Studios are AS OWNED by Zenimax as Bioware is owned by EA. I am not saying the relationship between owner and owned is comparable between both groups, but they are still owned either way.

Gabriel the Red Lion : Friendly reminder that Todd Howard is the type of guy that likes chopping people's heads off with a big axe.

Fandom Tribal : I'm not surprised. The Zenimax family doesn't really care for the lore of their games, especially Bugthesda GS.

SmugGrog 98 : The world of TES is just wasted potential for me, it had a unique fantasy world which we got a glimpse of in Morrowind and Redguard. But Bethesda does not want to commit to this vision and after seeing the rivendell expansion for eso its clear what direction there tacking. I have very little faith in TES 6 and i am more invested in fan projects like Beyond Skyrim and Tamriel Rebuilt then any official content released by Bethesda which is a damn shame.

WeegeeSlayer : Capitalists don't care about us, they don't care how much you love them, they're just here to distribute their products.

MF Doom : the thing that pisses me off the most is that ESO fans were never ES fans, they were MMORPG fans.

JesterFace05 : It's time for a Dragon Break.

wolflordshaitan : I started with Oblivion. I loved it so much I got morrowind to see what it was all about. Morrowind was so much more full. I couldn't believe how much was stripped out moving forward into es4.

Jerry McNulty : Yes sick of hipster garbage!!! Lord Zaric speaketh thy truth!!!

Dominick Holmes : Zaric you are the Tenth Divine.

Jean Luc Picasso : omg ur such a nerd

Divine Potato : Legend has it.. if your early enough and daddy Todd blesses you. (Other then with another skyrim) Zaric will notice you

Chris Coyle : That "chapter" whisper of mocking intrigue always gets me

DSG CubiK : hell yeah Zaric!!! ive felt the same way for a long time i played morrowind as a child and was blown away to be able to play Daggerfall with all the patches and bug fixes, i even enjoyed oblivion a bit, but when it came down the line ive lost hope for bethesda to recapture the design that put them on this stage to start with. Great Content Zaric!!!! Keep it up and cant wait for more.

Zurin Arctus : ESO is Canon and it sucks. Thanks for making a video on this zaric. Much appreciated.

iron mask of hell : Oh well. Tes lore was never that much consistent in the first place though ESO makes things worse. I have given up on TES.

NaZtRdAmUs : The worst part about Disney owning StarWars is that I'm never gonna get my Darth Revan film.

Jaer Nihiltheus : ESO is bad canon, still canon, but bad (writing wise) canon and it makes me feel icky. Gud bideo as always, high lord raven.

stalker 5151 : NO! I see the title and I just threw my water

SaiyanZ's Wife : ur moms canon

Altrantis : I enjoy ESO's story more than Skyrim's, and I think it's because I'm a dialogue sort of person. I frankly don't care about plot a lot, because plot always feels artificial to me. I kind of like things to happen in unpredictable ways that aren't meant to teach you a moral, which means I basically find all highly structured, overarching plots lame and predictable. Any story that is clearly designed to have a beginning, middle and end feels unrealistic to me. No, not unrealistic, it's just I can see the hand of the author, I can see the puppeteer's wrist, so to speak. That has led me to disregard plot altogether in most games, and focus on flavor and character dialogue. And ESO's dialogue is much, much better than any of the previous ones except maybe a few important characters in Morrowind. So many more memorable characters. I also like that they've gone back and fixed the portrayal of some things to the version of previous games as opposed to latter ones. Nords, for instance, feel more like they're described in the lore in ESO than how they're portrayed in Skyrim. And while you mostly meet half-practitioners of the green pact in Valenwood in ESO, it's still more than the 0 mention of the green pact other than in lorebooks in all the previous games, and you still get to meet some people saying they do eat people. Previous TES games have been horrible at portraying races that are not the home race of the province. ESO gives a half swing at all of them, rather than only doing one race right. Now, I don't say this really defending the game, I'm making a case of why I think ESO's writing is better than some of the previous games in a lot of ways.

starfthegreat : Is that a playthrough of Vigilant in the background? Will you make a full review video of this mod (like the one you did for undeath), with your explanation of the lore behind it?

A. Grekin : Man it’s been so long since you did a good rant!

The Lich King MK : Skyrim - Has a few choices - Has character creation - Has multiple playstyles Black Ops 2 - Has a few choices - Has character creation - Has multiple playstyles I'm just saying

clean carp : What saddens me even more is how quickly people forgive the mistakes and decisions made by Bethesda Softworks. After the entire outrage caused by the Creation Club launch, the Steam ratings of Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 are back up. When ES 6 will finally be launched, people will blindly buy it, despite of its quality. I guess we get what we deserve. We are just dumb mammals, who assume the decisions we make are entirely ours and the entertainment industry thrives on this .

BTU RX : Honestly, i don't care if ESO is canon or not. I never cared enough to try and learn it. I never played ESO. I spent $20 on a used copy of the game, found out about the $45 in "chapters" before clockwork city and Horns of the Reach came out. Then they release $45 of Morrowind and they're doing that again with the Summerset Isles expansion. Add microtransactions on top of that with timed exclusives and I don't want to play it. The game's not worth $200. It's a f*cking rip off.

Alex Gun : Maybe I'm one of those fanatics, but I refuse to consider ESO as canon. I like it, but for me it's "unrelieble narrator", or "Dragon break", or both

Nakoruru wants Pepsi : Nonono NO NO NO! Godammit Bethesda! Haven't watched video yet... so I'll edit or delete if needed

Nessie Andrew : Honestly, I like ESO.

762rk95tp : It didn't take long for people to realize that Star Wars prequels were bad. With exception of last one, they were considered to be bad. If anything has changed how those are seen is that they are seen now as better movies than those actually are, only due to Disney Star Wars films being even worse. Only people thats opinion may have changed towards worse with Star Wars prequels are ones that saw 'em as children and didn't have much understanding over what makes films good or bad. Star Wars prequels were memed quite a lot, but internet memes weren't as prominent back then. There were a lot of jokes about infamous Darth Vader NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!-scream in places like YTMND.

Venser's Prodigy : I admit that I've never played morrowind, and I never really got into oblivion, but I'm going to disagree with some of these points. I'm not going to touch on which is better, as it would be the equivalent of a tailor telling a doctor that vaccines cause autism, but I will refute the premise that demystification & consistency is inherently toxic to a fantasy setting. While you are correct that doing so inhibits suspension of disbelief, there are a number of other benefits to doing so. Consistency is important, as the infamous comic book where squirrel girl defeats doctor doom shows. A individual's power can ebb and flow, but radical shifts in power as the plot demands is terrible writing. A excellent example of a setting that adds gritty realism to high fantasy is warhammer fantasy. I'm ignoring the end times and everyting afterwords, as nothing can save you from poor writing, but warhammer fantasy uses very realistic historical trends as a tool. The empire forged by Sigmar, a empire sharing many aspects with Rome, eventually became the mess that is the Empire under Karl Franz, showing the decent into the mess that was the Holy Roman Empire. Magic provided new problems and solutions, but human nature and non-magical elements still defined much of the course of it's history. You also mentioned how the demystification of the dragon aspects in WoW was a bad thing. I disagree. Not only was it vital to the telling of many stories involving their spheres, good luck having the war between the blue dragonflight and mages without exploring what the blue dragons are and what their job is. Making their static nature a plot point also showed how their powers, once considered almost godlike, were now being eclipsed by the mortals they had sworn to protect. While purging their powers was so the designers could repeatably use them, and was stupid and should have merely been them admitting the alliance and horde were each more powerful, more good came from this demystification than bad. The problem is that it is a very useful set of tools for the purpose of improving profits through degradation of story quality. Each system I mentioned eventually suffered from it's overuse and the problems coming from this overuse. But saying they are bad is like saying death is bad. Or spiders. They may not be pleasant to see, they are bad in many situations and must be balanced with other things, but they are vital.

reignick1133 : Zaric, I am a gamer of well over 32 years of gaming and I have never heard someone argue the first Contra NES port is superior to Contra 3 in any earnest honesty or even in biting sarcastic irony. though I will keep an open mind, and I would enjoy hearing such an argument. The original Contra was just a quick port of the arcade game, and a lot of the "Nintendo hard" misbegotten memery is down to the fact a LOT of games of that era were quick arcade ports, in a few cases of original titles were made hard (or even harder) for the US audience on purpose as a means to combat game rentals potentially ruining profits a trend which continued up until the era of the Sony PlayStation, Sega Saturn and Nintendo N64. Though I will agree with your opinion on confirmation bias in The Elder Scrolls fandom, fandom/fanaticism in general, and I will agree that corporations are no one's "friend". I'll even agree with the fact that most of the landmass in Oblivion could fit easily of some of the moderately sized parks of the US, that the political systems were cut back massively in Morrowind, absolutely gutted Oblivion and utterly absent in Skyrim. What can I say you are pretty much correct in the fact that studios these days are far more interested in making money at the cost of EVERYTHING else. When a company reaches a certain size it has certain profit expectations meeting those expectations means that all of the rough edges and any part of the climb which would be considered "steep" to the lowest common denominator "must" be "smoothed out" in order to appease the mythical "wider audience". The shareholders will not allow for more complex concepts or a larger scale of fantasy for the fact they cripplingly risk adverse. A sad reality, but from a large-scale profit generating plans one that is steeped in the corporate culture. You cannot escape such and retain such a large business entity, as the profit expectations cannot be met within the sales window the shareholders whom control the purse demand, nor can you meet the HIGH costs of maintaining such a large company and pay said shareholders if you don't make the came as bland and inoffensive as possible. You can have high quality and still make money, but you can not make "ALL the money" that corporate shareholders now demand in almost all media industries.

VampCoffee : canon is cancelled

digitalized _id4 : You make a ton of good points

C J Collett : That Capital L Literature Vs Genre fiction stuff is rampant in university, Genre is just scoffed at and dismissed while a lot of pretentious hooey is praised because it's "Literature".

Ferodaktyl : lost the plot in 3 min. maybe a little less "allegorical" would help the hipsters too...

GoodOldJames : Star Wars the Last Jedi wasn't directed or written by JJ Abrams, but Rian Craig Johnson. The change was obvious imo, the characters changed dramatically. Unimportant bit of info, just clearing up a misconception.

Mawthra : "Or that silly card game" lmfao that shade was unreal

CommanderM117 : i kinda like ESO but i also dislike it flaws lore we want your money but it is my first MMO i liked could not get into WOW

ROMAN807 : C H A P T E R

Gord Lord : ESO is Nick Cannon? Never knew that would happen... Interesting video jokes aside.

GoodbyeShin : I don't want to live in the future where Twilight is considered a good piece of literature.

Infinite Skies : This video is Zaric's descent towards the heart of darkness. Make more lore vids, just ignore or side-mention ESO. Or dissect ESO and explicitly end your TES vids.

SpeedygunOne : I read about the first four chapters of the Infernal city and I haven't touched it since nor the second book. Just couldn't get into it.