Why Vox's MCU Video Feels Empty - Vox Response

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captainmidnight : Go to https://squarespace.com/captainmidnight and use code "captainmidnight" to get 10% off a website or domain. Do you think Vox was right about the MCU? Here's the link to their video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2qZ2_tp-jY&t=

HoustonProductions1 : Thank-you very much for this my good sir. That Vox video was a total mess.

On the Stick : So, a thing I find kind of interesting about their argument that you didn't mention (and probably others in these 2000 comments already have, but just in case): Mork and Mindy didn't "crossover" with Happy Days. Mork from Ork was a character who appeared in Happy Days and was so popular, he got his own show. It's not a crossover, it's a spinoff.

Wilo Polis : How to get attention on YouTube in 2018- Complain about the MCU Works every time

Paris Cloud : Forgets that Phineas and Ferb have crossed over with Marvel and Star Wars.

Stormy Kopa : I also disagree with your assessment that Vox got it right in saying that the Netflix shows only pay lip service to the larger events of the MCU. Jessica Jones was discriminated against and shot by a crazed couple because they blamed her for the death of a loved one during the Incident. Luke Cage was also shot, twice, by bullets made from Chi'tauri bullets, possibly sold by Toomes' crew themselves. And lest we forget, the population generally fears these characters (Luke Cage being an exception, for very good reasons) because of The Incident; the writers just prefer to work this into the general flow of the narrative rather than address it in one or two scenes - they have 13 hours of storytelling to integrate it into, after all, rather than having to cram it into a 90-150 minute film. The whole point of the shows was to represent the "heroes" who aren't rich and resourceful and fly around the world on high-rise adventures all the time. They're just trying to live their lives and blend in as everyday street-level folk do. The fact that the people around them act as if life is still going on as usual is completely believable; it's human nature to be afraid of that which we don't understand, and our coping mechanism is to often turn a blind eye to it altogether. And yet Vox tries to make it out as if _Jessica Jones_ (the show) was an excuse for Marvel to sell Captain America action figures. We see that action figure for less than 10 seconds, for crying out loud. Each episode is an hour long, with 13 episodes per season. If anything, I'd say the Netflix shows have an appropriate quantity of references to the larger narrative. Anything more would be distracting, and had they done it, doubtlessly Vox would have complained that they tried too hard to tie the movies and the shows together. Sorry, but I'm not giving this criticism any merit. The shows, low-budget as they may be, have the freedom to excel where the movies are often constrained. They provide a type of humanity and familiarity to the MCU that's almost reassuring, a comfortable level of individual relatability that's different from the flashier Avengers, who provide relatability on a broader, more universal scale.

Real Engineering : Fancy editing doesn't cover up terrible writing. Good work CM!

John Hughes : I don't even like the MCU all that much, and I thought that Vox video was baaaaaaaaad. I couldn't finish it.

Diegetic Creed : Vox...to feel so desperately that you’re right...but to fail, nonetheless

NoExit NoProblem : I don't see how artistic compromise affected Marvel at all. I don't understand what people want from these films. The Marvel universe as a whole is fantastic. Please correct me if I wrong. What do people really WANT from Marvel. This is a huge head scratcher for me.

Ethen Millard : I definitely think the worst part of vox's video was comparing the work of Stan Lee, Jack Kerby and Steve Ditko to a ham fisted sitcom cross over from the 70's. I mean a planned out comic book universe filled with interesting and dynamic characters is not the same as a cheap cash grab.

Aman Ahmed : This is a well made constructive criticism video without any hate towards a channel. We need more youtubers like CAPTAAAAAAAAAIN MIDNIGHT

Wallace Is Easy : GUYS IRON MAN 3 IS GREAT Ik people hate the mandarin thing but I didn't care cause i didn't know who he was seeing tony going through ptsd and depression was great because there was consequences from the attack on new york People argue there wasn't enough iron man scene but TONY is iron man Batman in Bruce Wayne, the day his parents died Bruce died with them and became batman. Bruce wayne is a shield and a mask for batman to do his stuff Tony though is way different that is why he told the crowd in the end of iron man 1 HE is iron man That sequence of him sneaking into the mansion is amazing and shows he can do stuff without the suit This was alluded top in avengers where cap asked him what he is without the suit

Tiwaking Tiwaking : 7:54 To be fair.... I would totally watch an ALF/Law & Order crossover episode. Hopefully it would be about ALF trying to get the lawyers to get him out of the government alien detention facility he is being held after the ALF final episode by being declared an American Citizen

Tommy M : Wow! Vox was wrong about something? Color me shocked.

Darth Azathoth : Vox seriously said Disney would not allow for deep tonal experimentation? They must have missed the time that Jessica Jones went up against a super-villain who chiefly used his powers to rape women, in a storyline that really explored some of the darker sides of misogyny,.

Spider Man : Half to be exact because of Thanos.

Miko xmas : Vox just want an easy clickbait

EdgyLegendLife : Just think of mcu as a netflix series but each episode is a good high budget 2 hour movie

Griff Fourn : I was really worried clicking on this video. I find a lot of response videos, particularly those from male dominated cultures (sports or nerd culture for example), and even more particularly those aimed at perceived "liberal" sources (in this case Vox or to continue the sports analogy; ESPN) to often fall into critiques about "how everything is too PC" or "they're forcing liberal propaganda." I, however, was pleasantly surprised by this. It's really good. The quality is outstanding, your message is well thought out and incredibly delivered. This was great. If you're wondering what I expected go watch something by "Unsleeved Media" or "Eight Thoughts." That's the type of response videos I feel often come out of these cultures, aggressively on the offensive. This isn't that, and it's fantastic.

Eric Carson : Vox has never been right about anything

GenerationWest : Your video matched my thoughts, but further expanded upon. It was a bloated explanation of crossovers, with glossy editing that didn't explain their point clearly (there is a kernel of an idea to work with), and of course the biggest sin committed was wasting 10 minutes of my time. No wonder when I first watched the video it had up to 80 to 90% dislikes, it didn't just insult the MCU, it insulted the fans, and an entire medium.

Nasim CCZ : Legends say if you’re very early every comment on this channel will say, “CAPTAIIN MIDNIIGHHT!!!”.

legobriker456 : Hope you respond to Pwedipie’s video on Marvel as well!

Cavan Chong : they should fire the vox guy

Frootlup : Growing up I just assumed all of Marvel was connected and all of DC was connected

Kento Bento : great stuff, completely agree

Luke Lim : If vox video is a thesis paper about Marvel Film, I will definitely fail the student.

DovahTarkus : It kind of seems like Vox is accusing basically everyone at Marvel, well, ever of being artistically bankrupt, which is honestly pretty insulting.

Ford Rasmussen : Your Squarespace advertising at the end was worked in seamlessly. Native advertising like that makes me not even mind it at all. Great video, by the way!

ZombieHero : Vox is all about the clicks. I dont even think they care about being right or wrong, they just want clicks.

Chanray : Those Captain American cartoon clips give me life.

Manx Marvel : I see what you mean with your main point that crossovers are inartistic and overused but... a good crossover can be more artistic than the separate movies would you prefer it if Iron man, Hulk, Thor, Captain america and Spiderman existed in different universes? I would be devastated to see such potential as the avengers be ignored for the plot of each individual character. I understand that a character needs to evolve and develop but It's also important to see that development as a group. If Black panther and Antman did a cross over, I wouldn't be that thrilled, Its similar to as Starvengers crossover but to have a Captain America and Iron Man crossover is brilliant as they both have opposing views that exist in the same universe that DIRECTLY relate to the people their trying to protect. Should they be free to do what they want or should they be licenced by the government. Like Captain Midnight said the whole of Spiderman Homecoming's set up for the Vulture is a spectacular example of this. Damage control is a great comic series and I'd like to see more of it. Dc fails at this from going from a divided city on whether Super Man is good or bad to "EVERYONE misses Superman. Why is he dead." The Superman vs Batman movie had potential but misused it by making the characters connected by plot and not by their beliefs and ideology. If Thor just popped into a Spiderman film or comic and said. I was there when your father died and didn't save him dispite being a doctor would be a prime example of DC's mistakes. You can't throw different properties together without a level of connection or contrast that works well with each other. Again this relates to the tone and themes of properties but that's enough from me. Anyways good video and I'd love to see more like it.

King Mojo : I would like to see a Law & Order SVU/Friends crossover

Ida Kiilerich : Thankyou! Of course it was a great video, and you made some really good points, but I'm just really happy you explain what Vox was saying, because I reeeally didn't understand that video!😁

Sedna Dragon : Personally, I would love to see a Star Wars MCU crossover!

The NBA Storyteller - THE END : still feel like you took it easy on them.

Matt Wright : Can I get a clip of that Captain America bit at 1:29

Eminem Music : That video got more dislikes which explains everything.

Stalli111 : Good job killa!

Vedant Arora : Vox Haters! Assemble!

Mysterious Middle East : Vox were clearly fishing for clicks. Not sure why so many people watched and why so many YouTubers are responding. It was a forgettable video.

Radien : Hmm. I find myself agreeing with both you and Vox, in a way. Your points are definitely quite valid, and I enjoy how you established them. I find that the problem with Vox's video, though, is that the title purports that the video is about the MCU, which is an example of a common strategy not just on YouTube but in many lectures: draw the viewer in to a larger discussion gently by referencing one of the smaller implications which the viewer probably cares about. It's a little clickbaity, but the tactic long predates the internet. So in reality, they were wanting to make a broad point about all shared universes and tie-ins, not just the MCU. Perhaps TOO broad... which is one reason your criticism of their video is quite valid. The argument Vox makes is disjointed and inconclusive, but I think there are a few points we can take from it even if it's far from definitive. We can build upon those points by simply continuing the discussion from there, since Vox clearly didn't establish the last word. Incidentally, I think X-Men is an imperfect comparison to the MCU to begin with, because X-Men was originally formulated as a story with multiple superheroes who didn't start with independent franchises. Of course, it quickly branched out in the comics, quite unsurprisingly... but X-Men started off as just X-Men and branched off into a few things like Logan, whereas the Avengers started as a bunch of fairly independent stories which were later unified. (Yeah, they knew they were going that direction with the MCU as early as Iron Man 1, but I'm guessing those plans were much less concrete in the original comics.) Anyway, thanks for your video. I think your perspective is quite balanced, and I agree that we shouldn't instantly reject every shared universe as a corporate cash grab. I have my qualms with the MCU, but I think it's still possible to enjoy various MCU movies even if others are less stellar. Heck, even with DC, I managed to thoroughly enjoy Wonder Woman despite the fact that I have no interest in the DCEU.

Rohan Mohall : Well this video doesn't feel empty. 👍

Joshua Gerald Butler : Whilst I might not be the biggest MCU fan, I do like it, and the Vox video comes across as really ignorant.

Obi-Wan Kenobi : Roasted.

Walternate : Thank you for this video. I like a lot of Vox’s videos. But this one was just bad.

Rosie Brotman : Man I just really enjoyed this video. Really constructive and balanced. Also the smoothest segue ever at the end there.

spite lionheart : i think vox should stick to politics no matter how bad their political views might or might not be.

Jayden Marvel : I knew something was off but I didn't know exactly what, this video did everything. Cheers to Captain Midnight!