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Neuro Transmissions : I was tense about what you were going to say, but Titanic jokes are great icebreakers.

Mr. Beat : TIL the film Titanic ostensibly ruined an entire generation's understanding of the Titanic.

shadowzack : Ahhh, i know why the titanic sunk. It hit an iceberg

- Cogito - : D...did...did you buy a admiral outfit for this? Fair play.

David McConville : For anyone who believes that the Titanic and Olympic were switched at launch, one only needs to look at the A decks and window spacings on each ship from photographs and compare them to the wreckage. I'm not kidding, it's that flipping easy. Whoever came up with that theory clearly didn't bother to look at the architectural designs of both ships. Remember, 'sister ships' does NOT mean exactly identical.

Tanay Satyawali : if the titanic was sunk by an iceberg, how come no pieces of the iceberg was found on the wreckage?

verdatum : Also a ferrous metallurgy geek. And yes, the wrought iron & rivets were indeed brittle when cold. This is sometimes over-emphasised, but it is true that even slightly more modern steel and followed by WWII era welding were both massively more durable. One minor nice thing about the wrought iron of the time, it resisted rusting pretty nicely. It was honestly pretty impressive metal for its time from what I've read. Like, it was wrought iron, but it was some of the best wrought iron. I can give sources to back this up if anyone cares.

Perzyn : It is completly the fault of the iceberg crew. They didn't hail the Titanic nor did they make any evasive manouvers. Completly unprofessional.

Astro Biological : This channel definitely is doing an important job: highlighting the need for commonsense interpretations of history. Quality, quality, quality.

Captainmckurk : Mate, I'm a sailor and the screw is also called a propeller. They are both correct names for it.

J03 MAN : Liked this video purely for the irony of the phrase "self-respecting redditor"

Marc Stollmeyer : The Californian was actually 20 miles away (as confirmed by the coordinates in her log). It appeared much closer due to a cold water mirage that inflated the perceived vertical height of the ship. Its captain insisted until the day he died that the ship they saw was much smaller than the titanic as it had a shorter profile, leading some to think a third, mystery ship was between the Californian and Titanic. In reality the mirage just made it look closer and shorter. You also forgot to mention that while the Californian’s radio was turned off they did attempt to contact the mystery ship several times via lamp. Titanic attempted to contact the Californian via lamp as well but neither received a response. The distance was too great and all messages were concealed by the mirage. It is stated that the Californian disappeared over the horizon, but as both ships were not moving a more likely answer is that the Californian went out of view as Titanic sank due to the decks lowering over time, changing how far people were able to see past the horizon.

Good Timing : "I can't stand that song" - no you di'int...... "Just kidding, I love that song" - :-D

Pomponivs Archibald : I think realistically (without the 20/20 hindsight), the Californian could have easily saved everyone, had people made slightly different choices. However, without this tragedy, governments wouldn't have made such drastic changes to regulations, therefore another major incident was bound to happen.

The Bonesaw .. : The greatest tragedy of that movie was how it portrayed first officer Murdoch. William McMaster Murdoch is a Scottish National Hero. Before the officer on the port side of Titanic had even launched a single lifeboat, *Murdoch had already launched half.* Of all the Titanic survivors whose lives were saved that night, 75% were saved by Murdoch. While it's entirely possible that he did indeed commit suicide in the Titanic's final moments (there were multiple witnesses who say he did), he was not the murderous coward he was portrayed to be in Cameron's movie. As First Officer, he did what was required of him... to the very last!

Alkerae : Wikipedia is a terrible source... But, it is a good source of sources. This is why no text is allowed to stay on a page unless it links to an outside source, so that if you want to use wikipedia as a source, you can just click the [9] and use that source instead. ...oh, that source doesn't say what wikipedia says it says? I hate this world.

James Stark : Also: non virtually= in reality. P. S. That outro was awesome!

Al S : And also actually the iceberg was thrown in front of the Titanic because a gang of sharks was working for a whaling tycoon. So whalers are to blame for the Titanic.

Eric Regina : Omg the ending! <3

pavo6503 : Boy, it's almost like government regulations concerning worker safety and consumer protection is a good thing!

Alex Coda : K N O W L E D G E

Brandon Taitano : Talk about hindsight. Cameron is indeed a sailor, as seen by the accuracy of the nautical terms he used in the movie, but, he has been a key researcher when it comes to debunking the myths in Titanic. He thought he was being accurate at the time, but has since debunked many of the things that he had put in the script. Cameron also thinks anyone taking that movie as gospel is an idiot, pointing out the inclusion of stories that he thought were highly unlikely but kept for dramatic effect. The locked gates, for instance; which he himself disproved later. Bottom line: Movies like that are stories, not news reports or documentaries. Anyone using that movie as source material for research on the subject is a moron that Cameron would laugh at if they told him they were using it as such.

Chew Bird : Big ships with big screws use shaft RPM to determine speed through the water all the time. It is such a reliable method that placards with shaft RPM vs speed are posted in numerous places around the bridge. Every person involved in conning, steering, and navigating the ship must know their ship’s “TPK” (Turns Per Knot). I navigated ships and subs for 20 years in the US Navy.

Mike Imbesi : Good video. Two issues with it though. 1.) They are actually called propellers on ships. The words propeller and screw are typically used interchangeably. 2.) A large part of the reason that the Titanic couldn't move out of the way is that the two outboard engines were triple expansion steam engines, but the center engine was a low pressure steam turbine that ran on the exhaust of the other two. Because of this, the center engine and its propeller could be stopped, but not reversed. When the main engines went full astern before the impact, the center propeller was stopped. This reduced the flow over the ship's rudder, resulting the rudder being less effective at turning the ship. This is part of the reason that modern vessels with multiple screws have a rudder behind each. It also would have helped substantially if, rather than ringing full astern, Murdoch had ordered the port engine full astern and the starboard engine run full ahead. In that scenario, the differential thrust would have provided more turning moment. Source: I have a degree in naval architecture and marine engineering.

Kodiak Express : You should most definitely watch red letter media's titanic review!

Tory Allen : Was certified triggered when you said you hated My Heart Will Go On. Glad I didn't have to come into the comments and say I am making a knowing better episode of my own debunking that you do love that song. Solid video, learned a lot!

Jeff Libby : The movie mentioned in this video is just that, "A Movie". A movie, created by the movie industry which makes a product for visual consumption and to make profit for the industry. A documentary, (which the movie Titanic was not) is a movie or a television or radio program that provides a factual record or report. Anytime a movie starts with a statement similar to this: "Based on real events" is usually not a true representation of the facts but more a vehicle to promote a particular view or used to create an entertaining or fictitious story, "based on real events."

Drew Taylor : Well, that was *smashing* with some truly *riveting* information. Please don't give the *cold* shoulder.

HappyRoach1 : I read on website that discussed the night of the Titanic sinking and the role played by the Californian. Where they looked at every possible scenario and believed that Californian would not have made it on time to help the Titanic. They said that there was just too much ice for the Californian to sail through. Also that National Geographic Titanic documentary has brought that during the night of the Titanic sinking, the sailors on the Californian were seeing cold water mirages. They didn't believe it was the Titanic because the ship appeared to look much smaller and not a huge luxury liner. Captain Stanley Lord could have saved his own ass had he written in the ship's official log book, that there was too much ice and too much of a risk to sail any further that night.

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs : Intresting and informative. I enjoyed this video :D

Philip O'Carroll : We are at risk of another Titanic like disaster, even worse probably. The giant cruise ships being built today have lifeboats supposed to cram 300+ people in them. These will not be loaded fast enough in a disaster. Furthermore, modern cruise ships have a very high metacentric height, so if they start to take on water, they won't sink gracefully like the Titanic, they flip on their side very quickly, making it impossible to launch lifeboats. Compare Costa Concordia, Herald of Free Enterprise, Estonia. In the most recent accident, Costa Concordia, if the ship had not grounded (a matter of pure luck, according to many naval experts) there would have been hundreds of casualties, not 30.

Ben From Gulf City : 5:57 wait... Is that King Theoden?

EoThorne : Did your dad also push for those sweet sweet dad puns? Oh, and I felt like I got Rick Rolled at the end.

Lee Anderson : This is very good but you missed one thing. Alexander Carlisle, former designer of Harland and Wolff, optioned for Olympic and Titanic to have 48-64 lifeboats. He was ignored by his Brother-in-law William Pirrie, owner of Harland and Wolff, and Bruce Ismay for fear that the clutter would make the ships look weak. And the regulations at the time were that ships of ten thousand tons and over would carry ONLY 16 lifeboats, the four collapsibles were placed there on behalf of White Star.

Gabriel : 1:40 wikipedia is a gift and we are truly blessed to live in a time in human history where there's a near endless multilingual easy to navigate encyclopedia with most of human knowledge and good moderation and sourcing.

Xylos144 : The big takeaway I got from this Video is that I'm pretty sure you drive a ~2007 Rav 4, back when they had the V6 version and the back tire, and not like the crappy, pathetic, bloated thing they make today under the same name.

Alex : If the Titanic did hit the iceberg head on, its hull would have folded up like an accordion, possibly opening half of the ship to the ocean. The frames of the water tight doors would have been warped to an extend that they wouldn't close properly or even at all. Steam pressure and thus electricity would have been lost instantly. The wireless operators had an emergency generator but it's power was only for a 50 mile range (the carpathia was like 60 miles away). The ship would have sunk in like 15-30 Minutes and everyone would have died considering they needed 1 hour for the first lifeboat to be launched during the real sinking. For comparison : When the Brittanic hit a mine, the energy was enough to warp the first 5 bulkheads so they wouldn't close and it sank in somewhat over 50 minutes. The energy of a 60.000 ton ship hitting a 1-2 million ton iceberg is far greater than a lousy sea mine. Now imagine what that amount of energy would have done to Titanic's hull...

Doctor Demonetized : ALL HAIL THE TITANIC All hail Capitalism?

SkullCap Productions : Intresting that you didn't mention the fire in one of the boiler rooms. I say this because a doccumentery claimed that it made the hull weak enough so the iceberg could damage it, but the fire most likely aided in the sinking diffrently. It was standard procedure in the event of a coal fire to move all the coal to the other side of the ship so things didn't get worse. This created a slight list which some people noticed a day before the sinking. That shift in weight is likely the reason that the Titanic didn't capsize like the Brittanic, or the Costa Concordia. Also jack and rose weren't real. I hate that I have to say that but some people seriously think either that, or that the entire Titanic sinking was "just a movie."

Terry K : Btw my favorite superhero of all time is Captain Hindsight from South Park

JokstrJaxn8D : Is anybody going to mention how well he did at lip syncing at the end of the video?

Norman M. Stewart : (in Tommy Wiseau's voice) Oh, hi, Mr. Beat!

Sketchman911 : I feel compelled to note. There is no reason people would marvel at Titanic's speed. The Olympic class (the line of ships the Titanic was a part of) were not designed to be fast, if you wanted a fast cruise ship you would sail on a CUNARD vessel. The Olympic class was designed and billed as being massive and more luxurious than CUNARD vessels.

Shinoharō・Tashite (しのはろお・たして) : When you said you couldn't stand the song I was so disappointed in you, I didn't know I could be so disappointed in someone. But then that ending! Stop playing with my heart. -.-

Fernando Torre : The movie gets a lot of flak, but as someone who studied the Titanic in school, repeatedly, years before the movie came out, all those "myths" were reported as facts in the books, because they were "as far as we knew" at the time The movie actually made a lot of survivors and their families come out and actually answer questions for the first time, which is how we know a lot more now (not to mention studying the wreckage, which we'd only done maybe 2 missions to before the movie)

Chas Hague : Another reason lifeboats were only partially loaded (from Pelligrino's book): The coxswains were ordered to go around to the baggage loading door in the hull forward, and take on more people there -- but they didn't come back close to Titanic, nobody went down to get loaded -- and the door was left open, doubling the area open to the sea

Chicago Skater : screws and propellers are both correct. Hydro and aero-dynamics are similar. They are both fluid.

James Stark : Yay! A new video! Also, i said this on your last video but I don't know if you saw it. Next video suggestion: plagues through time or something on plagues. Some nice ones: the Bubonic plague (obviously) the dance plague of 1414, etc.

P. B Amygdala : You didn’t mention the hypothesis that there was a fire in the engine room which couldn’t be controlled, hence the increased speed. Addendum?

String.Epsilon : Is that Mr. Beat in the reading sections?