The Ridiculous "The Crown" Salary Controversy

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Night Rider : Pay disparity....when the last time Emma stone and Michelle Williams had a blockbuster hit .....as the lead?

ElimRem : matt smith shouldn't be blackmailed into giving up a part of his salary

Semsex • : The Michelle Williams story is another out of context headline, Marky mark wanted maximum money for reshoots, Williams refused

Ichsuka : But the Queen doesnt need money, shes royalty...

Thomas Edwards : Thank you John this controversy is so ridiculous.

colaboy29 : What the hell! Your name's Giovanni?

Ash Williams : it is really hard yo feel bad about a pay gap between people who get paid millions...

Osman Cardona : John the voice of reason against sjws and alt right trolls

IreneShardaForever : The problem is also with the representation. ScreenJunkies went all into the issue with Williams and Wahlberg in that Ridley Scott needed to do reshoots because of the whole Spacey fiasco. Michelle was so happy about them replacing Spacey that she agreed to do the reshoot for per diem, thus she only got $1000. Scott thought everyone was going to do this, but Wahlberg is a much better businessman and had his agent negotiate for him $1 million to do all the reshoots. In that case, it was more so about Williams agents not negotiating better on her behalf.

Anne HBurn : Hollywood is out of control

Ashanti Shetty : Exactly. Marky Mark draws more than Williams. it is what it is and it sucks they have the same agent but that's life. If Williams is happy with her deal than what's the problem?

Ben V : THANK YOU!!!! Common Sense for the win!!!!

Garenthal : We all know merit doesn’t matter anymore

dyl flah : his argument for matt smith and claire foy can be applied to any of the other situations he's saying are wrong. Its all about who is a bigger draw. The rock is not the most talented actor, but why does he command more money, because he gets asses in the seats. that simple

L v B : John, didn't Mark Wahlberg just negotiate for more money? Don't men on average just negotiate for more money anyway? They're more disagreeable from the psychometric perspective.

Earnest Brown : Yea, something John and Grace agree on.

David Aaron : As someone who feels strongly about issues of inequality that women and minorities are subjected to in so many areas of life it is always frustrating to me when people who I agree with on principal choose to make poor examples as the poster children for these causes. All it does is give ammunition to the people who try and argue that these issues do not really exist.

neil Varma : U and grace r on the same page; along with me

St Li : Actresses are paid less because they are worth less. They don't have the same draw to audience as actors do.

badhass threeonenine : 2018 Female salary>Male Salary= Equality Female salary

Triple -A : One of the dumbest petitions I have ever heard of course he got paid way more not because of gender but he had way more leverage then her l, the lead role is the payday for Claire Foy and not so much the money.

Joe McKim : Claire Foy is going to be able to use this show to spring board her into bigger paydays down the line, she'll be just fine financially speaking.

sillyskater2 : 1. your real name is Giovanni? 2. Hollywood almost ALWAYS pays the well known talent more. This goes for male and female, yes there is a pay difference with males and females. Matt Smith is known for Doctor Who and a few (few) other roles but mostly DW, as for the actress; well I don't know her and haven't seen any of her roles. Now I don't watch the Crown but if I saw that one of my favorite doctors was in it, I might have given it a try. But seeing that the producers are making a fuss about paying the lesser known, lead actress less than the more known supporting actor, I have no want to now.

Sekhar Raja : I agree with john that the pay depends on the value the actor or actress brings to the movie or a show. The one ridiculous example of this is RDJ reportedly getting paid 15 million for his 10 mins in spiderman homecoming. The highest in the movie!!!!

mitrooper : Welcome to 2018 and it's wackiness.

Lycon Xero : This is much the same as the situation where that woman was upset that Netflix didn’t offer her more money for a comedy special claiming it was because of race/gender and pointed to what two of the biggest known comedians on the planet were paid (one a black man and the other a white woman) for similar specials as some sort of proof she was being discriminated against. These things of course do happen but it’s all about context.

WinterHell : Hey John, please stop using the Michelle Williams/mark wahlberg incident as a pay disparity example. That is completely taken out of context. The main thrust of your own argument in the Matt Smith/Claire Foy incident is that smith was better known and was able to negotiate better terms. That's exactly what whalberg did on the reshoot. He wanted a lot of money and he got it. Williams didn't even negotiate because she was just happy they were removing Kevin Spacey and agreed to do it for a per diem. It never even occurred to her to negotiate. Call her naive. Call whalberg a greedy pig. Say whatever you want about it but don't call this incident pay disparity. You do yourself and your own argument a disservice when you repeatedly misrepresent this incident.

Eddee Nicolas : Tired of this non sensual argument ...Matt Smith is a very popular and very talented actor. He got paid more because of his higher profile with the public along with other attributes. Clair Boy did not have the profile Matt Smith has and her negotiations took that into account. Not every situation is unfair .....stop it.

Forkolian : I Rarely fully agree with people about things, that includes Mr. Giovanni here in a lot of things, But in this matter i agree with him 100%. i mean before the Crown, i have never heard of claire Foy but i definitely knew Matt Smith.

neil Varma : Why should he donate to times up of all things; is times up now more than just sexual crimes??

Yes Man : I like how John lists the exact reasons for the "pay disparity" in hollywood and then goes on to say it only applies to this particular situation. You can't have your cake and eat it too!

El John : This stupidity has to stop. If Matt gives back the money it continues to set a bad precedent and there is no case by case basis all these feminists have to do is complain and they get their way. I feel Matt will just bow to the pressure though. Claire is incredible but she didn't deserve more money. Doctor who is a cult global franchise. I was watching it when I was a child (though I used to be scared witless of it) the times up movement is turning to extortion

movie trivia : Well said, John. I'm for ME TOO but calm down, a big name is a big name.

Bo Xue : Giovanni? I guess "Buuut, Giooovaaaniiii" doesn't have the ring of 'Buuut, Jooooohnnnn' But back to the story, there's always the counter argument of Jennifer Lawrence being paid much more than Chris Pratt for Passengers. All the Money in the World wasn't the best example either. Marky Mark's agent negotiated that deal, I mean even Ridley Scott thought every one instead of Christopher Plummer was working voluntarily for the reshoots. These kind of 'controversy' is actually hurting progress. It's like BBC cutting their male anchors pay check instead of increasing the females' salaries. I said a ton of times now, one of the text book example of Hollywood actresses being discriminated is Gillian Anderson. She was originally offered half of David Duchovny to return for the new X-files. They both have a similar TV career outside of X-files, and Scully and Mulder are fucking partners.

Michael Smith : It's not the actors fault, either way. They or their agents negotiate for everything they can get. The problem is with the studios themselves, These people sending a petition to Matt Smith are extremely misguided, any way you look at it. Even if the difference was for gender issues, they should have sent it to the producers of the series, not the actor/actress.

Josip Dodig : For season 1 I understand that Smith got higher salary. He was already a recognised actor and had a huge fan base. But.... for 2nd season there is no excuse. After season 1 she won many awards for the show and was clear that show rests on her shoulders. I came back to watch season 2 because Claire Foy, not for Matt Smith.

Gary McManus : So when you talk about Matt and Claire and how they get paid differently regardless of gender, more so because of negotiating leverage due to popularity, how many people will see the movie because of them being in it etc, but that doesn't apply to the 14 men who were above the highest earning woman in acting?

To Release is To Resolve : More women have to head line big films and if those films make money they will be paid more. It is all about draw.

angel chang : so what I got from this video is that your real name is Giovanni :)

I am a legendary person And every woman knows me : The crown greatness

ryan smith : I didn't know who Clarie Foy was until yesterday.

GamingRanger : Matt Smith is a bigger name. Especially to brits. Mark Wahlberg is a bigger name and very few people actually care about the Academy awards so Michele Williams being nominated for an Oscar does little to make any of the general audience know who she is. You can also thrown that these actors maybe have better agents than their female counterparts.

zero : these females need to fire their agent and stop blaming men. and all the people forcing these online petitions should donate their computers and cellphones to starving kids since they make more money than them by that logic. if you get alot of money keep it simple as that

Beth Mileta : The mark Wahlberg situation you used as an example is BS. It was in his contact before shooting that if he had to do reshoots he would be paid that amount. A great deal him and his agent struck while the female actress agreed to lesser terms in her contract. No one forced her to agree to those terms. And the 14 make actors being paid more then Emma stone doesn't mean it's sexism. It's a popular believe among clinical psychologists that in general men and women tend to have different character traits. No one is worse or better it's just in general they believe character traits tend to differ between the sex's. One of those is agreeableness. Women tend to be far more agreeable by nature. Not necessarily a good or bad thing. But this means they will tend to agree to lesser contracts on their own free will instead of refuse work. There is no person at a studio being this sexist maniacal Cretan demanding they pas women less!!! Muhahahaha! No, they want to pay EVERYONE as little as the work agrees to. This doesn't mean there are not specific situation of discrimination but as far as an overarching problem I would ask you to prove it cuz I don't buy it. And by all means when there are specific instances of discrimination let's get evidence together and go to court to prove it and right the wrong. But when you use bogus examples as your proof you are arguing a self defeating premise. If women actress want to be paid equal to the male lead in anything their agent and then should make that clear upfront instead of agreeing on a salary then finding out someone got paid more then you going and publicly complaining and trying to make the studio look bad when they did nothing wrong. THEY AGEED TO BE PAID THAT AMOUNT ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL. Until we all take personal responsibility this tribal group mentality will always tear people apart. It's about individuals not groups. Groups are how others tear people apart

WedgeOfSpite : There was no excuse for the pay disparity in season two. Season one? sure, he had the bigger name, the bigger following. But for season two, after she was the clear breakout star from the previous season, the one getting award noms? Yeah, no. It's like X-Files to me. Made sense that DD would get more money than GA at the start of the series, but afterwards when they were clear co-stars, and his profile wasn't higher than hers, the studio STILL wanted to pay her less. And it continued to the latest iteration of the series, when after she stayed in the old series (when she shouldn't have), she has the better career now than DD does, and yet the studio STILL wanted to pay GA less. It's bull, and should be called out as such.

hellfish2309 : disappointing how John is dancing around the crux of the issue: we don’t know how much more Matt made than Claire; i would argue that, despite Claire being the LEAD, Matt making ~10% more or so is fair and not a big deal... the non disclosure of Matt’s netflix compensation muddies the argument and since no one can tolerate such an environment everyone runs to one pole of the argument or the other... john’s point about negotiation is logical within that +10% in my opinion, but if Matt is getting double the pay at $14 million to Claire’s disclosed $7million, yeah we got an issue that fails to be explained away by contract negotiation and market leverage

DeAngry Dan : When a person male or female has a net worth of multi millions.. I dont care who gets more and neither should anyone with any sense give a damn!Oh so and so only earned three million while so and so earned fifty? Serious problems going on in the real for most of us to worry that a certain actor cant afford the latest private jet with all the upgrades.

Samuel Polay : I agree with you about season 1, the big issue with this story is that the disparity between Foy and Smith continued into season 2 after she had become a household name. While it’s very likely that her rate for both seasons was negotiated when she started on the show, the argument could be made that Foy’s agents should have tried to get more money for her after the first season was such a hit. It’s very similar to the issue with Wahlberg and Williams. Both have the same agency, but the agency decided only one of them was worth fighting for more money. I think Foy’s agents didn’t think she was worth a fight in season 2.

MPmike B : John: Great point of view in showing why certain actors make more than other actors. In my opinions, that is what we call "The American Way." You make your way on how marketable you make yourself and what demands are met. Your skills and how they value you is what you can negotiate on. Take for instance in sports, the best and most popular players are paid more than the rest of the players. However, this does not take into the fact that they are other important players who are getting less money not because of importance but because of value in return.

lyta quiroz : I dont know what could have happend to the producers but this was a terrible comment, especially for matt because they made him look terrible, when the truth is ask anybody to tell a role of claire before and only 1% could tell you... her payiment is really the work she now gets