History Buffs: Amadeus

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In this episode we look at the original Rock n Roll bad boy, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart! And who says this show isn't classy and sophisticated :) Also just to let you know that the next episode will be the last for this year. And that will be one you have all been waiting for, Braveheart! ● Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HistoryBuffsLondon ● Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HistoryBuffs_ ________________________________________­_________________________________ - Check out These Videos - Zulu Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VygWpmwBO8M Gladiator Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVAxzf1HdH4 We Were Soldiers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ABJVrRfr2Q Kingdom of Heaven – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjUu1Bt29o The Last Samurai – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-buQSp6wOMc Why Game of Thrones reads like a History Book and not a Fantasy Epic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knGeCNaAdAU The Patriot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuvmidN8Dc The Ghost and the Darkness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5QWPKL74E 300 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXZt-IlClhs 1492 Conquest of Paradise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWSwUbnofw Amadeus is a 1984 American period drama film directed by Miloš Forman, written by Peter Shaffer, and adapted from Shaffer's stage play Amadeus (1979). The story is set in Vienna, Austria, during the latter half of the 18th century. The film was nominated for 53 awards and received 40, including eight Academy Awards (including Best Picture), four BAFTA Awards, four Golden Globes, and a Directors Guild of America (DGA) award. In 1998, the American Film Institute ranked Amadeus 53rd on its 100 Years... 100 Movies list. The story begins in 1823 as the elderly Antonio Salieri (F. Murray Abraham) attempts suicide by slitting his throat while loudly begging forgiveness for having killed Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Tom Hulce) in 1791. Placed in a lunatic asylum for the act, Salieri is visited by Father Vogler (Richard Frank), a young priest who seeks to hear his confession. Salieri is sullen and uninterested but eventually warms to the priest and launches into a long "confession" about his relationship with Mozart.


Eric J : Ironically this movie actually sparked something of a revival of Salieri's music; he'd been largely forgotten but performances and recordings of his music increased dramatically after its release.

Cristian Guzman : I feel like Squidward is loosely based off of Salieri

Lincoln Y : Things Antonio Salieri deserved: NOT THAT

Tom Cavender : One thing to remember about "Amadeus": the story is told by an old man who has psychological problems, he is a textbook example of an unreliable narrator. Those looking for total historical accuracy from Amadeus will be disappointed, but I think the inaccuracies are excusable.

David Loewen : Steven Spielberg decides that he wants to make a movie about famous composers. He puts out a casting call. Tom Hulce walks in first and says, "I played Mozart in _Amadeus_, and would love to play him again." Next, Gary Oldman calls. "I was Beethoven in _Immortal Beloved_, so I already have experience playing the part." Arnold Schwarzenegger meets with him, and states, "I'll be Bach."

Malav Shah : If you guys did not know Salieri had 8 children

WANTED : Fun fact, it's actually been debated whether humor like Mozart's was just the standard for that time in history, as other letters from his family and completely understand related persons contain similar foul humor

Hunter Makoy : The comparison to Michael Jackson is actually pretty good

Tina : It's pretty grim that so many people think Salieri was a murderer. Makes me angry.

Медвед : Didn't Michael Jackson also say he was being poisoned before he died? #salierididnothingwrong

Liping Rahman : Consider that until Amadeus both the play and the movie Salieri was mostly forgotten so in a strange way due to this slander he and his music lives again.

John entwhistle surely Samsung : If i wrote music like salieri, i would have been proud !

InvernomutoUC79 : One small detail that you forgot to include in the video is that Mozart and Salieri where so amicable towards each other that Salieri was the music teacher of Franz Xavier Mozart, the son of Amadeus.

Crazy Canuck : Mozart would have LOVED Dumb & Dumber!!

john decapio : so basically mozart is rebel of classical music

Rellik165 : Historically, yes, the Salieri vs Mozart thing was complete fiction, but in the context of a standalone film, it makes a wonderfully compelling story of a man who tries to do good becoming possessed by his worse nature. For who WOULDN'T be mad if they poured their heart and soul into something just to have it be overshadowed by someone just coasting along? That bit about Salieri having dimentia is also interesting, as the entire film is told from his point of view as this ailing old man. Who knows how much of it is true, and whether or not he is subconsciously believing the rumors himself?

Goreface69 : Salieri, we hardly knew ye.

tubez4321 : How could anyone sing "Lick My Arse Nice and Clean" with a straight face?

Wesley porter : Anyone listening to that song at 6:47 would have no bloody clue what there singing about and probably find it beautiful

Stefan Sharak : Please do Immortal beloved.

Ludwig van Beethoven : I freaking love mozart!

Richard Hawkins : Now I understand the scene in the movie: The Last Action Hero. Danny said that he killed Mozart LOL

Hopeofmen : The boys in that choir of kids would definitely be cracking up (no pun intended) if they understood what they were singing. Also, WHY ARE SCHOOLCHILDREN SINGING THIS?

Paul Thompson : From a psychological point of view, would be remiss to not mention how Mozart had to deal and live with severe ADHD. Explains a lot.

The Applesauce Project : I know it's two years later since you wrote your text for this video, but I'm compelled to point out that chastity is not celibacy, it's faithfulness or monogamy.

Sophia Neilsson : As a classically trained musician and composer, THANK YOU!!! The Salieri flute repertoire is one of my absolute favourites, and he was incredibly prolific. He has been oft maligned cos of this movie. sigh

Gabe Fynsk : You forgot to buff another thing, Mozart regularly revised his works (take the Great Mass in C)

Ernest Gross : As a music historian, I say to you, well done! You got your facts right!

David Stevens : Please don't get the idea that Mozart was a Saint ; read some of his biographers and you may be surprised; otherwise yes one of the Worlds greatest composers;even in todays world some of our favourite musicians & entertainers have their ' dark' side


D Umie : Amadeus was one of the best movies ever made, even if the story isn't really accurate. Tom Hulce deserved an Oscar too.

Crazy Cooper 25 : Someone needs to make a Hamilton style musical based off this story

Contrapunctus XV : Has anyone noticed how similar Salieri and Squidward (Spongebob) are ? Both are bitter and jealous. Both try to become great musicians but a short little creature with an annoying giggle keeps disturbing Salieri/Squidward.

Booger F : One of my favorite films of all time. Mozart was a rockstar before rockstars.

Tiger74147 : Too right! All around. Incredible movie in every dimension. But I particularly appreciate your giving the real Salieri his due.

timtrek : you can just imagine Wolfie getting a hold of that workaday Salieri jam at the end and completely Pimping it to the next Level!

Conrad Boerner : Rock me all the time to the top Er war ein Punker Und er lebte in der großen Stadt Es war in Wien, war Vienna Wo er alles tat Er hatte Schulden denn er trank Doch ihn liebten alle Frauen Und jede rief Come and rock me Amadeus Er war Superstar Er war populär Er war so exaltiert Because er hatte Flair Er war ein Virtuose Er war ein Rockidol Und alles rief Come and rock me Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Come and rock me Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Ey Es war um siebzehn hundert achtzig Und es war in Wien No plastic money anymore Die Banken gegen ihn Woher die Schulden kamen War wohl jedermann bekannt Er war ein Mann der Frauen Frauen liebten seinen Punk Er war Superstar Er war populär Er war so exaltiert Genau das war sein Flair Er war ein Virtuose War ein Rockidol Und alles ruft Come and rock me Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Come and rock me Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Come and rock me Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus, oh, oh, oh Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus Amadeus

Zajin13 : If you don't understand German you will never grasp the amazing feeling when you are visiting family abroad, they take you to a school perfomance and it's proudly proclaimed that the choir will now sing "Leck mir den Arsch fein recht schön sauber" by Mozart. I couldn't bear the whole session as i broke out in laughter and draw the attention of all the proud and angered parents. My uncle joined in though, once i had enough breath to explain the situation to him. :,D

Alexander Ward : I very much can understand between Mozart and Michael Jackson dealing with childhood trauma

Canadian WIFI : oh lord that MJ reference DID NOT age well.  A bit like the Children he brought to his room

MREmusique : For "history buffs" you start out by making one of the most oft-repeated errors in music history: Mozart did NOT write all his music in "one shot" with no re-writes etc... He kept copious notebooks of ideas and themes, just like most other composers. You also say (though you use "arguably" in the sentence) that everything Mozart wrote is a masterpiece. This is also quite false, as Mozart's catalogue contains mounds of absolute drivel.

Me my opinion Sche : Comparing Michael Jackson to Amadeus Mozart... That's a really good comparison that makes sense.. Bravo.

thesamuraihobbit : Downfall. Do Downfall next.

Chris Moeller : I absolutely love the movie Amadeus. As a huge history buff, large historical inaccuracies usually bother me, but I'm willing to let them slide in *Amadeus*, simply because the acting and story are so great. However, what I cannot let slide are the costumes. In addition to being a history buff, I am also a great lover of art and fashion history (it's a fascinating subject. Believe it or not, the fashion of an era says a lot about the people and culture of that period), and I'm well-acquainted with European fashion of the past 1000 years. As with the history of the period itself, if the characters are wearing costumes that are dreadfully out of place, it aggravates me...but I'm usually willing to let some inaccuracies slide if the film makes up for those discrepancies in other ways. Unfortunately, however, Amadeus is littered with dreadful costumes. I can understand how one might not notice if one isn't acquainted with the period, but to those who are, the costumes look like they've been hastily hand-sewn for a fancy dress party. The female costumes (yes, including the wigs) in particular are absolutely abysmal. They often don't contain the right dress shape, undergarments (which were so important to giving the dresses of the time their appropriate silhouette), seams, lacing, fabric choices, hairstyles, and so much more. They remind me of the kind of costume that a kid would wear on Halloween if they were pretending to be a colonialist, or Marie Antoinette. A great film like this deserves better! It's a real shame, because it detracts from an otherwise amazing production. There really isn't a good reason for this. Other films, about the 18th century, that came out around the same time (or even a few years earlier), had amazing costumes. *Barry Lyndon* is a film about the 18th century that was made prior to *Amadeus* , and it is a great example of a film that did costuming right. Again, I understand that the filmmakers may not have had a budget to go all out with the costuming, and, I'm willing to let some flaws and inaccuracies slide, but it seems as if only the bare minimum of thought went into the costumes of the movie - as if the costume department underestimated the knowledge of their audience, and assumed that people wouldn't notice, as long as the costumes looked superficially 18th century. I know that they made several of the costumes themselves, so they should have at least tried to put some more effort into them. There were costume studios at the time that had loads of brilliant costumes leftover from other movies! In many cases, I think that they would have been better off renting some of these, than making the many of the ridiculous pieces that they made for the film. In short, the poor costume choices are so at odds with the detail and effort put into every other aspect of the film (the directing, acting, locations, script, etc.), that I find the end result to be extremely jarring, and distracting. I just wish more attention had been paid to the costumes, because it's such a great movie in every other way. Anyway, that's my rant done. I didn't expect this comment to get so long! Are there any fans of Amadeus who also love fashion history, or am I the only one? XD

Christopher Hogan : So, Mozart liked rimming! Why isn't this in the Special Features on the blu ray?

The Sean Ward Show : The alternative to an early life spent performing wasn’t a childhood as we know it. That wasn’t a thing until the 20th century. Instead of playing piano he’d have been doing farm work or manual labor.

Jan-Erik Strøm : Gods... not that demon, that comparison is an instant skip

Serai3 : One of the greatest details of this movie has to do with Mozart's giggle. It's fantastic, and fits what was written about him at the time, that he had an incredibly irritating laugh. But the amazing thing is that it wasn't _Hulce's_ giggle, but _Mozart's._ When Forman was editing the finished footage and got to the end, he realized he needed another laugh from Mozart. So he got Hulce to come in and record one, but they found he could no longer do the laugh. He'd lost it when he'd left the character, so Forman had to mine one of the laughs from earlier in the film. It was a mannerism that belonged only to the character. I find that fascinating.

Max Paschke : History Buffs should review Bohemian Rhapsody!!!