A bad thing about Sumo (Day 10 Hokutofuji match)
Sumo wrestler gets concussed at the beginning of the bout continues fighting passes out in the tunnel after the bout

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This Day 10 match between M7 Ryuden and M9 Hokutofuji has a bad outcome and the handling of the situation by the sumo officials is very lacking. See what you think...

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Todd Stoilov : The way they charge at each other from such a short distance it's surprising this doesn't happen more often. And yeah he might be concussed.

M Brown : Many great traditions can stay. The dohyo-iri, the shio-maki, the yumi-tori, the te-gatana, the chikara no mizu... nobody wants to change the great traditions of sumo. But, some traditions need to change because they only hurt this great sport instead of help it. The indentured servitude of the stable system, the hazing, the abuse, the poor compensation, the risk to the health and well-being of the rikishi, the sexist policies regarding women... sumo is dying. Slowly, but surely. Traditions that drive the youth away and kill the sport must be allowed to die. If not,Oozumou will be the thing that dies first.

Lukas Maria aus Wien : Back in the days there were itamiwake-draws, when a rikishi got injured in a match that resulted in a torinaoshi. I feel like this should be one of the instances where you do not let them go at it for a second time.

Durin S. Bane : His neck got crunched too. I hope he's getting good treatment. And three matta is excessive, there should be a protocol for that

alfwok : As far as stopping the match or what they could do, it's a tricky subject. What isn't tricky is the complete lack of help for him. Where was the wheel chair? Where was a doctor? They should have those things ready to go at all times. On the other hand, these guys must know that if you are the least bit concerned about your health...sumo wrestling probably not a good idea...

tigerboy1966 : I wonder whose call it would have been to stop the match and give the fusensho to Ryuden. Is a gyoji allowed to stop a fight that hasn't technically started. I can't think of any other occasion where a wrestler got knocked cold in a matta, so I would not want to make any sweeping statements about a once in a decade occurence.

JayyEVee : If he feels capable of continuing, than it should (until perhaps the 3rd failed start or it's obvious as it was here that the 2nd false start injured him). There should be immediate medical attention on hand at the ring, no excuses there. Any other professional sport has Dr's on the field or courtside. Outside of that, I think this is a 'Japanese' thing to not recognize a wound or personal issue in public, as it's not 'honorable' (I guess you have to fall over dead before it's honorable?).

Austin K : Now we already have those disgusting people who say it’s a part of the sport because it’s violent. They think the safety of the wrestlers is worth nothing and shouldn’t be protected because they knew what they signed up for. It’s mindsets like theirs that fetishize wrestling with injuries when it can have serious consequences. Honestly I can’t believe that some highly upvoted comments are all for this and we’re happy they did nothing. If this had hit mainstream media in the states or Canada they would have ridiculed sumo as a sport stuck in the past (in many ways it is such as no women in the ring and ignorance of injuries). In my opinion I agree with you, Jason. Stop the match let them get medical help along with pulling out of the tournament for safety reasons. Of course the sumo association has nothing to not incentivize fighting injured so he would probably want to go back right away. This is the thing I hate about sumo more than anything else because it just ruins so much.

JboyAAA : Oh wow! I was expecting Kiken gachi for Hokutofuji after the second start - that’s truly surprising to see him continue. Scary stuff; most of the rule changes in judo have been anti-concussion policies lately and we’ve all had to learn how frightening that really is :(. Thanks for bringing this up!

Ghost Nappa : Thank you for showing us this match Jason, I wouldnt be surprised if the Sumo Association finds themselves in a similar situation to the NFL in a few years regarding concussions, traumatic brain injury, and degenerative neurological disorders. It will only take one rikshi leaving his brain/body to a medical researcher in his will to get that ball rolling.

King Kobashi _Kisenosato Ichiban : He was totally out of it. And still nobody done anything. It's sick. Don't get me wrong, I love sumo, but this is too much. Sumo is an extremely violent sport, but without anything behind for the well-care of injured wrestlers. We are in 2018 dammit !! Hope Hokutofuji is allright.

Clevertrousers : It’s crazy to me that it is 2018 and the Sumo Association has no concussion protocol. I get that they have this obsession with tradition being upheld but that’s an unacceptable excuse for not taking care of these human competitors. Such a bad look for the SA.

Carus : It should be a "foul" like grabbing the topknot. At the very least there should be a requirement that even someone like the referee speak to the rikishi to ensure it is safe to proceed. There should also be a procedure to provide care and assistance when this happens. I'd be interested in hearing what the Japanese perspective is though.

Scott Poet : amazing he almost won

Jordan Gopie : Man, something similar happened in last night's Stanley Cup Playoff match. Sports need to take concussions more seriously.

janellek21 : It's now coming to light that many former rikishi suffer from CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), also known as post-concussion syndrome.

Timothy Smith : If Hokutofuji was unable to continue after that headbutt, would he be given the loss? Or, would Ryuden get the loss since he dealt an injury during a false start that left his opponent unable to compete ? Has a situation like that occurred before???

Yoginho Sentao : Was his neck who receive the compression making him shocked, I feel really bad for Hokutofuji when this comes after matta...If is was for me I will cancel that match or give victory to Hoku after 3 fail matta from ryuden... but this is Japan where idk they have his common sense sometimes...

dromadrosis : Horrible. In the name of tradition nobody does anything. I am not an expert but thanks God this happens very rarely (I hope!).

Jacoman S : Jason I agree with you 100%. A persons health is paramount over tradition, or protocol..he should have been taking to the clinic immediately after that first contact, he looked to have been knocked out momentarily...Sad to see this.

Richie Jones : I see poor Hokutofuji was withdrawn from the action for day 11 with a "cervical spine injury". I hope the big man makes a full recovery.

jason mallard : They should both get a 0-0-1 for that. It's pointless to make him fight because he has no chance. Can't give Hokutofuji a loss off a matta but giving Ryuden a win is just as bad.

boudi bla : I agree 100%, Stop the fight

NesconProductions : I'll say before I watched this I learned besides a concussion Hokutofuji has been diagnosed with a herniated cervical disc. This is a career threatening injury & could have been life-threatening after the initial contact (should have been stopped). Sumo is heavily laced in tradition & about as macho a sport sport as you can get but this isn't the 17th. century. Much agreed with your sentiment Jason.

Dull Dana : as a spectator or as a part of a people who sit there and watch I felt bad seeing this, kind of wrong aswell. don't know why exactly... Great effort from him, strength and braveness to stand up and fight. deserves much respect. Hope he's okay.

Luís Miguel Marques : I agree with you. Inactive were also his fellow beya mates, or am I wrong?

Jingus Christmas : Why did they get to go again after silver belt guy fell down?

dantheman1998 : Sumo's arent allowed to drive cars but its okey for the Sumo assocation to neglect an injured Sumo. I really like sumo but this Extreme traditionalism needs to stop.

Cashmere Clown : this made me feel so bad for him :(

Jason McCullough : I see soooooo many head bonks in this sport, and it never gets talked about. It would be interesting to see if some of these rikishi or maybe even stablemasters have CTE.

Ultimo Tiger : Being someone who used to watch a lot of pro-wrestling from Japan, I see the "Fighting Spirit" idea runs very strong in Sumo. Which is all very well, but you'd think in this day and age, even an ultra traditional sport like Sumo (which uses video replays!) would have some kind of contingency plan for something like this.

John Sim : What I saw was a neck injury. He's fine. Compared to MMA and Boxing that was like a flash knockdown. He's fine.

snozzcumbers : Chiyomaru is cold as ice and an OG, sees the guy get injured right in front of him and doesn't even bat an eye lid.

boojeboy1 : I love your channel Jason & thank you. Why wasn't the match ended after the first action? Was it because it didn't "start" properly?

T Vład : Sad and scary. Hope Hokutofiji will be allright

Robert Tada : Man, the elders just walked right by him and didn’t look concerned at all

John Riley : he is one of my favorites, - Hokutofuji. I hope he is getting the medical attention needed.

Doctor Maxi : Im sure that the rikishi know what they signed up for by joining a Sumo Heya. Knockouts and injuries from falling out of the Dohyō are likely to happen at some point. Diabetes and other risks associated with the lifestyle of being a Rikishi in the long term also have to be considered. Although Hakuhos physique might make him less prone to a lot of dangers that others are expieriencing, lets say: Ōrora or Terunofuji In Lethwei for example you can only win by knockout, otherwise its declared a draw. At least the referee can stop the fight and refer to the doctor if a fighter is heavily wounded though. For the people interested in the rules of Lethwei (from wikipedia): The decision There is no point system in Lethwei: The only way to win is by knockout or because of an injury and the inability to fight any more. At the end of the match if the two fighters are still standing, the fight is declared a draw. This ensures that the fighters always give their 100% and tries to finish the fight. The knock-out (KO) is when the opponent falls on the floors, leans unconscious on the ropes or if the fighter is unable to stand up or defend himself within 20 seconds (10 counts with 1 count/2seconds). If there is a count, it must count at least up to 8. When 3 counts are performed in a single round, the fight is terminated and scored as knock-out (count limit). When 4 counts are performed during the entire duration of the fight, the match is terminated and scored as knock-out (count limit). The technical knock-out (TKO) is when the fighter is in a position that can damage or severely harm him if the fight continues. The ring doctor is consulted and he is the one making that decision. If there is no KO or TKO until the end of the last round, the fight is declared a draw. The "injury" time-out If a knockout happens, the fighter can take a special two minute time-out to recover and choose whether he wishes to continue the bout. He may do so only once in a fight.[26] The only win is by knockout; there is no point system. If neither fighter wins by knockout then the fight is declared a draw.[11] The time-out can't be used in the final fifth round. The use of the time-out is considered as 1 count.

justindewoody : I hope he is OK. He might be sitting out the rest of the basho...and probably the next one too.

HospitalmanMikey : Wouldnt be surprised if this was Hokutofujis last match. Cervical Spine injury is no joke and I felt so bad for him when he was shaking off the pain.

Juris Testeris : During my second year as sumo observer I came only to one conclusion - I wish the best for rikishis, every single one of them, so unique, so individual, to fulfill the goals they made to themselves and of course not to lose health due to life path they have chosen! First of all they are humans, and as so they must be cared in the best-effort way. Totally agree with approach that sumo "elders" must consider effective measures for such situations. Best wishes to Hokutofuji!

bobby dias : I think the guy on the right should have been disqualified because he failed to fight when the official told him to fight.

LiquiD DiuqiL : After the 3rd false start it should have been called. Especially considering the previous impact.

JPrivacy : 1) I would have felt so horrible if I was Ryuden; I would not have wanted to be involved with this! On that note, 2) Could Ryuden have refused to fight? He was already in a losing tournament, and etc... I do suspect that Ryuden took the situation into account in how he fought. Murry’s obviously angry, too, though he remains a professional about it—something I wouldn’t have been able to do in his place.

C B : I think many people in the comments here get the philosophy and mentality of sumodo wrong. Its not that someone forces Hokutofuji to fight in that condition. These guys want it for themselves and are determined to overcome every obstacle in their way, sometimes even to a point were it becomes very unhealthy or even inflicts career ending injuries to their bodies. Its the same with Endo coming back now in a state in which he needs surgery. From my point of view the stable masters are in most cases the ones who step in and make their rikishi pull out of bashos or sit bashos out in the first place when the wrestlers push it too far. Sumo is not football and not a mere sport. It goes beyond that. And it goes far beyond entertainment and smart career planing for the rikishi on the dohyo. We westerners that enjoy sumo should take it as what it is. And we should be aware of the fact that 99% of us are in no position to pass judgement on a way of life and an art and philosophy of fighting that we dont fully understand.

BigBig5 : One symptom of a concussion is throwing up.

Isaac Sauceda : I agree to a certain degree, but not fully. It's not good to see these men hurt in such a way and worse to not have protocols to aid them AFTER the match is over. But you must respect their choice for entering such a competition. He could've gone to the clinic as the announcer mentioned, but they hold pride in high regard as do many other martial artist that have been concussed. Some sportsmen years down the line in interviews say they wish so and so did not stop the fight, it is not uncommon to have perseverance in sports. So do not shame the sport please. It could be said the same about many things in life, but you should not shame such stoicism (military personnel for example put their life on the line as well as local authorities). To try and force your ideals on them would change everything. It's good many of you feel the need to stand up for them and voice concern, but don't be too selfish and change their world out of your own concern. I'm certain when the sport is ready they will change with you guys. Believe me I'm not one who shouts for the worst outcomes like someone being hurt, I'm not trying to fan any flames. I just am one who enjoys seeing individuals with qualities that are scarce in today's world.

c c : Shameful the way the sumo association handled it. He should not have continued...

Nancy Peteja : That is very scary. 😨 I pray that he is okay🙏 and the Stable Master had him looked at by a medical team. 😞🚑🏥