Why the rise of the robots won’t mean the end of work

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Joe Capo : This video was made by evil robots

Yash Kshirsagar : The automation is different this time around though. Machines are smarter and are constantly learning thanks to AI, meaning they can potentially learn whatever new jobs humans get displaced to, and creating unemployment. On the other hand, if this automation leads to decreased production costs and end-consumer costs, we won't need to work for money in the traditional sense. Really hope it works out that way :)

Vox : Thanks for all the thoughtful comments and debate! For those recommending that I watch CGP Grey's video on this, I have of course seen it already! To understand the key difference between our arguments, consider his 'humans are the new horses' analogy. The point of my video is: Horses don't buy things. Consumption rises with productivity growth, and it expands into weird unpredictable places, and that's what the futurists of the past couldn't imagine. They thought we'd work 15-hour weeks by now. Instead we're buying smart phones and apps, watching netflix, and eating at restaurants. That said, I hope nobody takes this video to mean we shouldn't worry about the future. It's not that there won't be challenges, it's that we need to diagnose those challenges correctly and precisely. If we sit around waiting for mass unemployment to show up so that we can pass a basic income, we may find that those conditions don't arrive any time soon. The idea is to shift the focus from the number of jobs to the quality of jobs, the prospects for mobility, access to education and opportunity. That's not as sexy as daydreaming about a robot jobpocalypse, but it's truly the task at hand. We'll be discussing some of these topics in future episodes, so stay tuned. And thanks for watching :) -joss

B-doe - ThatsHowitBdoe : A robot created the title...nice try.

Ryan Pham : did anyone see Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell in there?

Andrew Kovnat : Boston Dynamics just made a new video today! What a coincidence! If ya don't know, Boston Dynamics are the dudes behind a lot of the automated walking robots you see on the interwebs. Give them a quick look!

Grammar Police : 1:19 hearing it before won't means it will never happen, 3:24 First adding new products or locations won't always make new jobs."How about cashers?" Most likely there will be less cashers as supermarkets get new technology that will make cashers obsolete by letting the customer walk out with the item and scan it on the way out without having to stop, just charge the person later, it is more time effective.Amazon is trying to do this right now.Why open up new locations if you could just buy it online and have it ship? New products won't always mean new jobs, they may employ people into they can figure out how to automate that job. 3:33 All the people that get layed off can't all go to those jobs. There may still be air left in the glass but in a matter of time the water will spill over with no where left to fill. If your thinking why not go into the stock market, as I think right now that is one of the only jobs that won't be allowed to be automated, not sure if it is illegal to have a bot trade stock for you.

Arctic Fox : CGP Grey has excellent counterpoints to the claims in this video. The main problem is that automation is different this time. Automation started with machines doing physical work for humans, directed by humans (think printing press). Then it became machines doing physical work with much lower human guidance. Then humans were not needed to run the machines. That's fine, because people can ascend from physical labor to mental labor. We can make a robot arm to lift 1000x as much, 100x as fast, and 10x as often, so the displaced people found work in the next breakthrough. They used brainpower to do things a dumb robot could not. Now, human brains are being replaced in the job sector by self-learning AI. Humans will be replaced in both physical and mental fields, but since the AI is self-creating, *there is no rung to move up on the ladder.* Machines and AI will totally eclipse humans in capability, with the only jobs left being centered on neither brains nor brawn. What is left for humans to do? Maybe therapists will exist for the human touch, to help over 25% of the workforce come to terms with being unemployed and entirely obsolete within the next 100 years.

David Reyna : In the future people will make money vlogging and entertaining each other

Cedric Quenette : This time it's different. Before automation was only able to take over repetitive jobs; robots on a car assembly line simply need to repeat the assembly steps over and over, doors on subway trains only need to be opened and close etc. Now we are reaching a turning point in artificial intelligence, it is no longer robots just taking over repetitive tasks they are now able to challenge humans in intelligent and creative tasks. When a robot is as intelligent or more so than a human both logically and creatively, what jobs could there possibly be left for us to do?

KhanStopMe : An interesting counter argument to points raised by CGP Grey's "Humans Need Not Apply" & Kurzgestagt. Although, 7:08 - labour saving innovation is being counterbalanced by the structural shift to the knowledge economy occurring in the most developed nations. As a greater proportion the economy reaches the Tertiary and Quaternary sector, labour productivity is decreasing because most firms are structured in a counterintuitive manner for productivity in the knowledge economy. Additionally, new technology, such as social media, is eroding the average adult's ability to focus deeply creating a decrease in productivity within the knowledge economy. The book 'Deep Work' by Cal Newport explores this in greater depth and I would recommend it to anyone.

Neko Tamo : A rather flawed video. It quickly glosses over the "what kind of jobs" and "how much they will be paying." Because as it is mountains of people are being shoved into the service sector and this naturally drives down wages and lets bosses abuse workers. When all jobs are automated then those who hold the means of production or land will be like feudal lords, able to do what they please with their dependents who can only fill the "jobs" of lackey and prostitute... not very appealing.


Matthew Hilliker : DEY TURK UR JERBS!

bob bib : This is moronic and short sighted

Enthused Norseman : Here's a thing that always strikes me about this near-total-automation scenario, where people are no longer employable: who will buy the goods and services that these robots and programs provide?

Ryukachoo : Unemployable is the right way to put it. Machines have been replacing base tasks for a long time, but this new era can replace even very complicated tasks. All of the service industry, all of the transportation industry, all retail, will be very easily replaceable in a decade.

JuxtaposedStars : This is wishful thinking. Going forward, automation will eliminate most low or unskilled positions. Not every one is suited to be a college educated or white collar worker(many of those jobs will also disappear). If(for example)fast food chains replace their workers with robots, you have a huge number of people immediately unemployable. The number of new jobs created(like robot mechanic or programmer) will never equal the amount of jobs lost. You'd need laws setting artificial quotas of human workers. When consumers can choose between a robo-burger that is always made perfectly for $1 vs. human error at an ever increasing cost to support the human workers' lifestyle, people will take the lowest price. If anything, the current political climate in which coal and factory workers think their old jobs can come back is a perfect example of those who will be left behind.

SeanG Plays : *THEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!!!!*

Enders Turkers : Yes new jobs will apear but who will do it? AI of course

[Yoshikage_Kira] aka Handy Man, Duwang Man, *chew* : That's what the robots want you to think

THE GOOD CONTENT : No job = no money No money = no purchases No purchases = no profit No profit = no robots Pretty simple actually.

Charles Kuhn : At 2:35, that chart is false. That is the active population, sure, but more than half of Americans just don't work anymore, sure most because of old age, but still, swathes of jobless/underemployed people are out there

Jurgen Strydom : Here is how its different this time around, it threatens to do this to almost all industries at almost the same time, not just a few industries over a large period as in the past. How will new jobs be created if the extra money and extra productivity is also serviced by robots (robot chefs, robot barbers, robot caretakers, etc.). Sure a store may open more locations, but it is no use if the interface to that store is now also a robot. If robots can service cars, why wont they service themselves? The things humans can do better than robots are shrinking quickly and never before has it been on such a large scale. Economist of all people should know past behavior is not an accurate predictor of future behavior.

You Isme : Sounds like something a robot would say........

Mahir Cecen : We will work for the robots, we already do haha

big mike : The reporter is cute😉

crocodile icefish : capitalist propaganda ,

Eric Hasegawa : 5:46 That smug is so cute!

Scott Freedman : The argument that technology won't cause job losses because people have been wrong about automation in the past sounds a lot like the argument that climate change isn't happening because scientists were wrong in the past about an impending ice age. Also, and this is just speculation of course, but; where in the past technology might have driven productivity allowing businesses to expand, thereby creating new jobs for low-skill workers in retail, field work, warehouse work etc.; modern technology will no doubt soon be replacing those jobs as well -- regardless of any productivity boom it might achieve. It may pave the way for more highly skilled jobs, but you can't retrain everybody who's been displaced to work those new jobs, and even if you could, many people just don't have the aptitude for it.

Mr IY : In a populated country such as mine (India) it is surely gonna be an issue as unemployment due to politics is a grave issue.

Trojan Hell : AI will now STEAL OUR JOBS not ILLEGAL ALIENS , great

Nathan H : The problem with this argument is create new jobs (based on expansion) humans need to be integrated, soon there will be maybe one or two humans employed per store. Thus new stores (or whatever building the company has) will not help.

Emir Dini : Don't believe this bullshit, read the research from credible people. Robots in the economy (i.e technological automation) has been shown time and again to displace workers. Most estimates put the figure between 45-60% of the workforce. It's very irresponsible of Vox to downplay the seriousness of this issue.

Leo Noir : No need to be replaced by machines... Most of us are grinding our lives away like machines anyway.

Álvaro Lopes : Sounds like something a robot would say.

dave c : You are my favorite reporter at vox. Good job with this video, it helped me see the issue in a different light. For me I first heard about this issue from CPG grey's video: human's need not apply. I have happy to see the new side of the issue but I am still skeptical of both sides. Only time will tell.

Court 02468 : At 5:37 it activated my Google Assistant.

Azio Prism : *Kurzgezagt robots already made a better video about this.*

poppet pala : *_COUGH_* tesla gigafactory *_COUGH_*


johanna vaiz : I live in Ontario Canada. We are putting into place in the next 10 yrs a standard living wage allowance. Which means you will get a check from the government if you don't earn enough $. This is happening to Ontario because of robots and the Canadian government says we won't have jobs do to technology....... In Toronto where I'm from Google has bought some of our lake front where they will have a Google test site with robots and driverless cars . This test site is to be tested on the people of Toronto..... VOX YOU ARE BSing US!!!!!!!!

Leon TicklePickle : Remember we thought that playing chess was a uniquely human characteristic. We thought it was too complex and sophisticated right up until the robots beat us right up to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov when IBM's db beat the very best. Now any free chess program u can find online can smack up a world champ left n right. Humans always think we got something special, something robots could never replace... even when robots to it better. BTW robots can now compose music and it might sound trash but It will only get better, and one day it will be better than the best :)

Hulky Smashy : There is a big problem with this video from 3:10 to 4:10. The problem is that the jobs that have overtaken them will only employ a fraction of what the original job had employed. Moreover, the more computers get advanced the more likely they will take over jobs that have been a part of the economy for over 3 centuries. CGP Grey made a video about this, you can see it here: https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU

Court 02468 : Opening new stores won't mean new jobs in the future. Ever heard of Amazon? You can just sit at home and have it come to you. Also Amazon is trying to make stores where you can walk out and it scans the item without a cashier.

L Galicki Band : Productivity per hour has not been growing in the last years because of bullshit jobs, created to give us little money and occupy us our whole days, so we won't have time to think about the system. Bullshit jobs are those which are not really necessary and useful, and won't produce anything valuable. They basically deal with useless bureaucracy. Think about it. Those people at the top of the financial pyramid have a lot to risk if people under them can actually question the system.

ewan hassall : You're missing the point, before we have replaced human muscle with robots in the market, like the cement truck its not a computer, it's just a giant motor with a few fancy parts reducing the need of human muscle. Today we are slowly but surely replacing the human brain with computers in the market, and once that happens you can't compete in any way. However I do believe the market will adapt fine, the fact is, is that humans are going to be profitable on some level for a very long time, so we have plenty of time to figure things out.

Armagetron Fasttrack : They forgot to talk about the biggest thing - what will humans be able to do that robots cannot? For our entire history, we've been able to shift to areas that humans can still perform that robots can't, such as human interaction, complex processing of the environment (driving), and creative tasks such as making a business decision or working in a scientific field. Once AI comes around, robots will be able to do most human interaction jobs (depends on how comfortable/natural the robotic interaction seems with consumers, but will likely be very good decades from now), ALL complex processing of the environment jobs, and most if not all creative tasks. Where will the jobs be after this? All those auxiliary jobs the video talked about that are created when technology increase, will be done by robots. New industries may be created, but why would a human be able to do something in that industry that a robot couldn't? We are talking about entities that will be both vastly more physically capable, and more mentally capable in basically all respects.

Al F : In my opinion yes. People are becoming lazy and don’t want to do work. So we use technology as an advantage to do things for us. We I live many shopping malls and small businesses like Kmart or big lots are closing. Because of increase of online orders. Which is another reason why many people in my city are also unemployed or have low paying jobs. In my opinion robots are in the same category of technology.

Ryan M. : What did the robot say to the human? Im immortal