Hollywood's Favorite Trope: "It's Just Business"

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Darth Utah 66 : conservatives: Why do you present capitalism as evil? Hollywood: It's nothing personal, it's just business.

Omega Rasetsu : Isn't Hollywood run by.... Dun-dun-dun.... *BUSINESSMEN?*

Kekero : “Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: *Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others;* Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do.”-Marcus Tullius Cicero

Grumbles : For ages I've considered corporations objectively worse than governments, but the discussion at 11:08 went a long way towards changing my mind. God damn was the quality of news better back in the day. Honestly my biggest concern with businesses is I've had this opinion that they are somehow less accountable to the people than governments are. However governments seem to be no more accountable to the common man than businesses, hell possibly less so. As an american I've had a special resentment for how money corrupts politics due to the omnipresent toxic nature of lobbying and shit like citizens united. However that seems as much a problem influenced by governmental powers as it is by businesses. So if nothing else you've made some serious headway in changing my perspective on things. Cheers!

Jared Hite : It's pretty simple, really. In order to have a compelling story, the hero needs a strong villain to go up against, and in modern American society, having the villain be a wealthy businessman means they will have lots of resources to bring to bear against the hero. It should be noted that the government is also often portrayed poorly in media, often being so incompetent/obstructive that they need to outsource all operations to a teenager. And that's ignoring the genres in which the government, or someone associated with the government, is the villain.

Todd Douglas : This should be taught in junior high school and high school.. the government has the students for 12 years of education and they graduate almost completely devoid of skills and attitude that would make them successful. With a few exceptions who are influenced at home.

King Thorhammer : Hollywood is full of Champagne Socialists.

commiedeer : Not even a minute in and I'm seeing a running theme with all of your cited villains. Most if not all of them put short-term profits over long-term gains or otherwise sacrificing basic morality for a quick paycheck. Many of them are shown trying to beg for their lives when this "get rich quick" scheme invariably backfires in a huge way. Perhaps there is an alternative message here like "shortcuts to success will often see you driving off a cliff."

Mhin'qa : It’s nothing personal... kid. It’s just business.

Joseph Griffin : "it's just business" "just following orders" ..... it's a real life thing, we hide behind these things when we cause harm or hurt another person. We use these phrases to justify the evil that men do. it has nothing to do with businessmen or soldiers personal mindset. Like a solider follows orders even if he doesn't like it, so too does a business man have to follow the most profitable course of action. No need to over think it... they are over used justifications of ones personal actions when said person might have a different moral respect to the choice..

Isvoor : Business game: Make a trade deal every time you hear the word "business" in this video. Healthier than drinking.

animeturn : Well, I´m a bussines man too, I manage a modest family company, despite my geek tendencies (yeah I'm as impressed as you), and I understand your point, but sadly out there are facts that surpass fiction and reinforce the bad image of "business men", for example in my country a multinational wants to put a mine despite the opposition of the entire poblation of a city and against the common sense, it uses all kinds of legal and not totally transparent tricks to pressure a government to allow them to put the mine, this mountain is the main source of water for the city and its habitants and it is a proved fact that the mine will destroy the mountain's sources of water (review the case of the páramo de Santurbán). This is one of many examples of why is too easy to set a bussines man as a villian in a movie or serie, because it happens a lot in real life, some people with economical or political power will do whatever it takes to acomplish their goals, and sadly many rich "business men" are this kind of people.

John Undefined : Seeing high-level executives as largely corrupt does not vilify one's friends and neighbors. Some of the "points" in this video are flatly false. Also, empathy is negatively correlated with business success. Not only do businesses not provide libraries, they actively try to tear them down. But they do think that ballparks should be built at taxpayer expense (paid for especially by those not interested in sports) for the sole profit of the businessman. This isn't from some Hollywood script. This is actual collusion between business and government to tear down libraries and to build sports stadia at taxpayer expense.

Boris Yusufov : I would like to note, that it is not business per se that is vilified, it is the corporate form of business. And it is understandable, since it is a trick allowing people not to have personal liability for many awful actions. As you said, you never see mid or small business owners portrayed in such a light. Because most of us actually see them as people, doing the hard work. Mega-corporations and its CEO's on the other hand are only seen on screens - be it movies or news reels reporting on ever present corporate misconduct. Additionally, for populations that are in some way or another consider themselves victimized, successful people are a natural scapegoat. And a lot off people consider themselves victims nowadays.

TheHabsification : Milton Friedman just straight up owns him.

Gabriel Appleton : Simple. Hollywood doesn't hate business. It's full of businesses. The movies are made by businesses. That said, greed is a great motivator for villains. It's relatable to real life, too, in both the private and public sectors. So, a greedy businessman makes sense as a villain. It has nothing to do with Hollywood itself hating businesses or businessmen, it's just using what works to tell the story. Remember, greedy businessmen serve as villains in books and video games, too.

Daniel : 10:47 Don't use India as an example of "positive environmental outcomes" of globalisation here. Try taking a dip in the Ganges outside the assorted factories and garbage dumps filled with plastic bags and coke cans and you'll find yourself very ill. What's worse is that that river is sacred to the people, who believe it to be all cleansing, so pilgrims (even children) often regularly bathe in it. Many even ask for their ashes to be washed down the river. While I'm sure some business has brought many positives to counties like India, remember there are downsides that need to be addressed too, like worker exploitation and the importation of environmentally harmful materials like plastics. Not to mention the exploitation of children by smoking companies...

Spearka : You do make a nice case but I would like to present a counter-argument. I would easily say that businesses exist to make money but in the majority of cases this is not a bad thing because the means to which they are doing it are in the peoples best interests such as producing clothes or selling food. But I would say one reason that students are getting progressively anti-capitalistic because odds are that because the percentage of educated citizens are increasing they feel that, with the existing system in place they cannot achieve their goals and innovate in their field because the jobs they need are simply too competitive, instead winding up in lower-paying entry level jobs they are overqualified for. A capitalistic society is also reliant on non-innovators willing to do the innovators dirty work in exchange for the profit they are receiving since an individual simply cannot achieve their dreams alone. Fortunately, the advent of industrial automation has presented us with a solution, allowing robots to carry out the menial tasks necessary for an individual to innovate, however with the present capitalistic system, with money being given only by innovators and the profits they make this simply cannot work as there is no guarantee that everyone can innovate, and if automation continues without reform then unemployment and poverty will skyrocket. As such, in an optimistic scenario society leans away from capitalistic policies so that the graduated students will have some kind of budget given by a third party (private or state) to innovate at their own speed, using automation to help grow their budding business. Of course, I now need to provide insight of the "greedy businessman" trope so I'll just use it to say that the stereotypical "greedy businessman" does not like change provided by the outside as they usually wind up costing more and, in my scenario would either adhere to the given example, instead using minimum-wage slaves to carry out while stifling automation policies under deluded principles or support automation policies, use them en-masse while completely ignoring any repercussions of this. To the commoner both of these stereotypes are relatable and plausible: The first being because, at the very least, the most commonly known CEOs can have conservative leanings and oppose technological innovations that can change the status quo; the second can also seem plausible because the rise of automation means you are less reliant on manpower to maintain your profits; and for the most part CEOs can seem completely apathetic to the concerns of the "lesser folk" to some because, at some point they acted against their interests for the sake of furthering their cause. Of course this is my verdict and knowing the Youtube comments section I will be called a communist, "libtard" or SJW because, despite possibly agreeing with them on every other matter, I said at least one thing they don't agree with and now I am the enemy and hate freedom or some other dumb assumption

J.S. Tama : well, it's not really about business itself. it's about the concept of big corporations and how they do business as they tend to seek constant growth. most movies that use this trope are about small business and individuals who fight that big corporation. they hold a capitalist ideal, but reject the extreme version of it. also, tony stark, walt disney and many other ficticious and real characters in films are businessmen, but they represent the creativity of the business, the ideal. the evil corporate man, represents the constant growth mentality. which does bring up a lot of problems in a society. it's like you missed the point entirely

Edwin Lukas : Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

Connor Halleck : I don't think that the trope comes from business people automatically being bad, but as a representation of the conflicts of interest that corporate capitalism creates when it separates the means of production so far from those it is meant to produce for.

Daniel Baker : Gosh why are these viewpoints so hard to come by?

Fif0l : 6:30 if violent movies and games make people more violent, then how come we don't live in the most violent time ever?

Doad Master : Its called cultural marxism.

CrashDavi : Pretty dishonest to use Superhero Movies and freaking Doctor Seuss, stories which had their plots written in the 50s and earlier as examples of "Liberal brainwashing". Let's also completely ignore that some of the most criminal organisations of today really do organise themselves as businesses, from drug gangs to hitmen even to the US Military outsourcing its fighting to private Mercs. We live a capitalist mode of production and everyone, good guys and bad, needs to suit their whims to the logic of the market.

Isenskjold : Wow, i belive their is a reason for this trope. I don't believe that most of the top buisnes men are trying to help the world. The current system of companies brings the worst people to the top, as the only measure for success is making money.

Derek Weisman : I can see why Buddhist monks don't read, watch, or listen any form of media. They would lose sight of reality.

Daniel : Yuri Bezmenov warned us this would happen. Subversion through generational propaganda.

Sam Land : Economics of Bee Movie 😏

Derek Weisman : Is it just me or does Hollywood want to destroy capitalism and enforce communists way of life. (not counting the wire. That show shows how complex and brutal capitalism really is in a good way.)

Andrew Shaw : I thought that "All Hail Cesar" was fairly neutral on business. The main protagonist is a kind of business man who is smart and ethical.

Nathan Higgins : *Customer asks for extra sauce* Me (refuses): It's nothing personal, just business.

Austin Kallabat : Sounds like you’re a evil capitalist now! 😂😱😂

Andrew Shaw : This is the one YouTube video that I can't load. Unlimited waiting for the buffer flower.

Brian Robbins : Thank you for creating videos of substance

JenoPaciano : I take issue only with the link between media consumption, thought, and action. There's a link, but it's not clearly understood. Take violent video games. If being violent in games was the same as being violent in real life, we'd expect most gsmes to be in jail. Actually, violent crime among young men haa overall decreased as violent games have become more popular. I don't think that's causal, but, if violent video games made people violent, we wouldn't expect that to have happened. People can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. I think the real trouble with the evil capitalism Hollywood narrative is that we don't just see it in movies; we get it on the news, in school, and from politicians. It feels real because we hear it from "real" sources, not just fiction. I think people are now learning that much of what they learned in school, on the news, and from politicians isn't real.

DrNanard : I think you miss the point imo. Presenting businessmen like this, they only contribute to the individuation of the problematic, like "it's not capitalism that is wrong despite the fact that it's responsible for the death of millions each year, it's not the system that produces inequalities, no the real problem are the individuals that are within that system and exploit it for they're own gain...". What it achieves is that evil businessmen are depicted as black sheeps, they're the only responsible for the wrong they, and therefore, when they die, the problem is magically resolved. These kind of stories never addresses the real problems, they never talk about capitalism in itself, they never attempt to criticize it, they just depolitize a very political problematic. The reality is that "evil" businessmen are the byproduct of capitalism, not the other way around.

Mathew Reckamp : There's a book called ATLAS SHRUGGED that spends more then 1000 pages discussing and illustrating this very subject.

jestersMadhouse : hollywood is a commanist cult

joelt2002 : I do agree Hollywood has an agenda, but I think you maybe reading into this. Hollywood exists to make good compelling movies. A bad guy, or the antagonist is often an individual that has power. What are the most powerful people within our society? Businessmen, Politicians, and Bueracrats? It's a trope, because it's easy for the writers to sell someone who has power, a businessman, doing something bad with that power. Power corrupts, absolutely power corrupts absolutely.

LoudAngryJerk : I mean, to a degree, sure. But theyre not portraying *all* businesspeople as sociopaths. Theyre portraying the outliers that way. The people who take business concerns away from humans, of which there *are* plenty, or we wouldn't have had a small depression about a decade ago, and flint would have clean, drinkable water. Notice that almost none of the characters who say "it's just business" are everyday mooks like you or me, just trying to make ends meet. Theyre people in a position to make a decision that can effect the lives of dozens, hundreds, thousands or millions of people, and instead choose the path that will protect themselves, rather than those they represent or serve, of which those people do exist. Granted, it would be nice to see business represented as more of a spectrum, where those businesspeople are much more of a deviation, or even show someone who makes decisions such as those, and then show his side, that if he had decided otherwise, it would risk the jobs of everyone who works for him. Or someone could be in a similar position, and make the right one, to show contrast. But to claim that evil business models don't exist is simply naive.

Hi! I had to cut poverty in the school gymnasium : I think another reason as to why Hollywood tends to portray business in a negative light is because it appeals to the masses. The story of the everyman/woman or the smaller business going up against the bigger, more corporate business is basically a version of the stick-it-to-the-man trope. It could also be that most people aren't the rich heads of big businesses and are skeptical and or scared of people who are. And rightfully so! Businesses have done bad things in the past and there have been business people with bad intentions. And it's important to be skeptical so that when we see corrupt people in power we can do something about it. But it's also important to remember that the majority of businessmen and women are good people who want to do and create a good things. Iike pumpkin spice lattes, movies, music, and even the divice that your reading this comment on right now was created by business people.

brackonstudios : "Business" is just an excuse to do/get what you want/need while ignoring or justifying against any ethical repercussions. That being said, there is a degree of Machiavellian Pragmatism that comes into some of these cases which may justify the line being used. Other times, it's simply: "I'm not sorry."

Sanjay Matsuda : This video is incredibly short-sighted, lumping in mom-and-pop shops and the like with the great cancers of mankind. Big businesses, unlike businesses of smaller sizes, tend to have the sole objective of taking money or wealth-granting resources from people who have little (the customers or other first parties) and putting money into the pockets of those who already have a lot (stockholders, high management, etc). Skirting the law or having it changed whenever that makes more money. Everything else be damned. That's what makes big business bad.

Eternity in Our Hearts : Do a review of zootopia

Barskor1 : Why? They are Commies that is about it.

FasterThanRaito : My disagreement here is that you lack perspective on who exactly is being vilified. It's not all business that's bad. It's Big Business. You like seeing hardworking earnest people trying to improve their communities, and that's great. But it doesn't work that way under Capitalism, where the vast majority of the benefits of labour trickle up to the top. Personal entrepreneurship is good, but "Free Market" Capitalism stifles it, because the free market is not free, it is monopolized. The Free Market Economy sounds great on paper, but the truth is that without regulation, Capitalism always leads to monopolization and growing inequality. Modern economics learned from the failure of Capitalism in the 1930's and tried to use a Keynesian hybrid system of government regulation to prevent the worst abuses, but Big Business always has the money to corrupt regulators, fix the markets, and buy out media to spread propaganda. Then the capitalists turn around and say "there's no alternative" after spending hundreds of billions of dollars on coups, wars, and embargoes to strangle and sabotage "socialist" countries. Business is evil because it rewards externalizing costs to improve profit, damaging society at large for personal gain. Profit itself is about extracting value from other people's work. "Doing Business" gives people, both the good and the psychos, easy excuses to justify their bad behavior that makes millions suffer. Every person who died cold, hungry, or sick who could have been cared for - was murdered by Capitalism, as truly as any executed victim of authoritarianism. By this standard, modern capitalism easily has more blood on its hands than Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot combined. That's why nobody likes the sleazy rich guys in suits.

Jabberwocky Draco : 2:00 There’s a word for that, cliché. This video as a whole does come off as preachy.

Matthew P. Chapdelaine Productions : This is why Mythology is vitally important.

S Blower : SUB!!!