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Cryaotic : You really hit the nail on the fish.

Michael 마익흘 Aronson : "It becomes psychologically necessary to hate Phil." I see this repeating with Anita Sarkeesian.

WeeSmackyJim : I love Fez though.

DodderingOldMan : This video is seriously like a balm to my soul. The vast majority of Internet commentary is devoted to shallow, vitriolic, nasty, whining little arguments and debates that have zero interest in actually understanding something with real nuance and sophistication. It is so, so nice to be reminded that stuff like this, which is the complete opposite of all those things, does actually exist.

Toshinou Kyoko : damn look at all the comments cherrypicking quotes from the video and ignoring his point

Caddicarus : How have I only JUST noticed this? Christ, nicely done. This is fucking ace.

Shykin : Only going to comment because of the final line in the video. That was an excellent mic drop. As someone who really doesn't care about any of this and just found this discussion of it interesting, that was an excellent moment.

Whatsit : Well thought-out, analytical and cleanly presented - Examines the issue beyond the issue.

JermaineATL : " I'm not defending phil" this whole video is in defense of him. there are numerous way more influential and famous people that didnt treat people the way he did. he lacked composure and humility and paid for it.

BALDORF BALDORF : You are an amazing concept, we need more concepts like you on the internet. Looking at both sides, presenting that information, and letting the veiwer decide what to do with it. Genius. Too many people just look for information that agrees with their opinion and ignore everything else. Thank you for attempting to make people open their minds. Though I consider myself fairly open minded, this helps me think of even more to consider and apply to other things, and I hope it inspires others to consider the information that is not given directly too them and try to see the other side from a new perspective. Thank you again, you bring hope to the internet.

Jesse Cox : This is entirely fascinating. 

Chino Gambino : Around 9:30 this video goes off the rails entirely. People were not annoyed at racism because they could use it to hate Phil Fish, not much talk of racism at the time, he committed a social faux pas in western etiquette when addressing the guy and appeared to write off Japanese game development despite his game being a shameless rip off of their designs. It appeared cruel, hypocritical and just added to his well earned public image as a pretentious asshole. Phil is not acting wrong for a famous person, he being marginalized the same way a non-famous person would be for offending people in their social sphere. The only difference is in Phil's wisdom he decided to extend that sphere by addressing large chunks of the gaming public on social media, even in the fucking steam forums so now thousands of people have a noticeable distaste for him. If I wasn't sure hes a nut I'd have said he encouraged the "love to hate me" vibe around him as a marketing ploy. 9:57 these are not rape and death threats, we don't know if she actually gets anymore hate mail than any other public personality nor can you say her 'work' is why she does receive hate mail. Anita Sarkesian barely talks about the representation of women in games, why its important and doesn't provide evidence for what little she does assert. Read the transcripts of her videos, they are full of logical leaps, general sophistry and propagandist. 18:38 I can't think of any group we can publically attack without fear other than white males for very same reasons you list as protecting them. They cannot play the race card or gender card, they are assumed to be of higher social and economic status so no one can feel sorry for them, ironically you've symbolized white males in the same way you've criticized the public for doing with Nickelback. White straight male is the Nickelback of social justice hipsters.  I also can't think of any examples in the press and public of minorities getting in trouble for speaking the same things as 'whites', Zerlina Maxwell gets away with saying revolting things the same way Jessica Valenti does, Black TV Pastors speak the same divine bigotry as White TV pastors, Oprah is one of the most influential voices in America with no real white rival, I don't think race or gender is as big a deal to the general public as social justice advocates hype up. I don't see this evidence of the white cis guys getting a free pass(I'm not 'white' btw, so do not start with the "you can't see your privilege" tripe.). This was made 2 months before Gamergate began so you couldn't have seen it coming however this privilege theory didn't pan out since FullMcIntosh became a thing. Jonathan McIntosh, Anita's writer and producer is more loathed than her by wide margin, 25 benefits of being a male gamer was received worse than Anita featured videos even with so many 'straight' manly males and beloved male personalities lending their voice.

person8203 : You've made some good points here which seem to have been largely ignored by many in the comments section. Ironically all the hatred and distorting facts to suit by people hell bent on attacking Phil makes them out to be arseholes just as much as Phil. In many cases they're worse. He's a complex guy with an often abrasive personality that not only made a successful game, but quite a unique and well received one. That breeds jealousy and resentment among the insecure and have nots. People just use his terse nature as an excuse to drag him down simply because he's been successful. He isn't a politician seeking office, or a pop star, or a public servant, he's just a guy that made a game. Why not accept his personality and be thankful he's open about his opinions. Or does that require too much reason and self control? Sure, he could interact with people a little better and has said some douchey things but he shouldn't have this level of relentless hatred just for that. It's trial by twitter without the rehabilitation afforded to actual criminals. Do these people think everything they buy, watch or listen to is made by 'nice' people. Seriously, read up about how your clothes and electronics are made in terrible conditions by workers being paid peanuts. How those good guys at corporations like Google, Apple, Amazon, and Starbucks, etc dodge massive amounts of tax that impact public services. Not feeling the corporation vibe? Try taking a look at the people who make your music, star in films, write books or appear on tv. Many of these people are bigger arseholes than Phil ever will be, they just know how to hide it. Look at what happened with Marcus Beer. He was the one being a massive dick yet Phil gets the flack for calling out his entitled bullshit. I've seen similar on creative forums. People ask for opinions, and while some circle jerk patting each other on the back, that one guy that comes out and tells them how it is gets abuse. Too many people have a problem with opinions that don't aline with their own and deal with it like spoiled brats. All of this does is shine a spotlight on how emotionally immature and insecure many on the internet can be. And unfortunately these whiney, self-entitled babies shout the loudest and drown out all the normal, rational people. It makes me think of something I heard about human psychology. At our most basic, we desire to feel significant. It's so true, and can be taken to mean both positive and negative significance. That desire to 'be heard' and be part of something has got to be the underlining reason for why people bother taking the time with such pointless hatred. It makes them feel involved in something by proxy, even if it's by negative means.

Dunam : People don't dislike phil fish because "he was being famous wrong". They dislike him because he stole the game music and code from fez and never shared any of the income with McGrath and DeGroot and for the conflicts of interest in the IGF and Indiecade. People dislike phil fish because he has been embroiled in a couple of scandals, with jurors of game events like IGF and Indiecade being financially invested in fez and then making it win. Fez wasn't even eligible for the IGF according to its rules, since it had already entered the contest and not won in a previous year. On top of these things he falsely claimed his website was hacked by a specific group of people and when people were pointing out the holes in his "hacked" story, he quickly recovered the site, left twitter and announced that fez 2 would never come. Personally I'm not invested in this and I just wish the guy would take some responsibility for his actions. I have no ill feelings towards the guy. I just want people to understand that there are some legitimate reasons why people think negatively of phil fish. I think if the guy would apologize and take responsibility for some of his shittier actions, a whole lot fewer people would dislike him.

Cabbadath B : This video was dishonest. It WAS a video defending Fish. Or rather, deflecting for Fish.

Nevercake : I like the name Phil Fish. It sounds nice. Phil Fish. Phil Fisssh. I may have missed the point of this video. Fissssssssh.

TruthBy Design : I didn't really follow this story when it was blowing up ; though I do recall several of his tweets being tacky and immature. I don't get how people are picking apart his IGF acceptance speech though -- no trace of humility or "surprise" ? So everyone who wins an award is supposed to act completely shocked and bewildered? His speech wasn't even tacky or self-aggrandizing -- He thanked all the people who contributed to his game and even threw in a shout out to his mom and dad... Pretty much a spot on imitation to 90% of awards speeches in every genre of popular entertainment. I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. He might be an ass but he's very young and like most people in life, has a lot of growing ahead of him. People are sounding nearly as tacky as he did just piling on him as they have been for years.

3G Bloke : i play video games religiously and when ever people talked about FEZ i thought it was a new PEZ candy...

Angel Flores : There was one mention of Anita Sarkeesian and people lose their goddamn minds.

Eric G : most nickelback haters don't know the concept of what they represent

YogsLomadia : I kinda like Nickelback :(

Alex Krasny : Bit of a long tangent about Nickleback, but the rest is very good and accurate.

moleman : I hope Phil releases his next game under the name "Colin Cod" or "Sam Salmon"

Jason McCullough : I like these kinds of videos that make you think and not be able to come up with a clear cut answer

a_wandering_silhouette : right way to be internet famous? gaben. period.

SplatterCatGaming : All the other youtubers are posting here and so I feel that I should at least make a pointless post. Mission accomplished.  That being said, I'm envious of Phil's ability to make people angry. Trolls practice for years to hit the level that he sits at naturally. 

Aeiou : Defending Anita Sarkeesian. A good thing. Pick one.

Definitely Zeblackcat : I've been saying this to anyone that was hating on Phil Fish for years. "The hate is just because has a massive magnifyer on him. If anyone else said the same things, nobody would've batted an eye." And I'm in on the Nickelback joke, but I know it's a joke. I know it's the concept. And people who jump on these bandwagons have a hard time distincting it and just repeat the quotes from others like HE is the one who deserves the hate.

Alex Eddy : Wow, watched the whole thing and the Video got everything wrong about the self destruction of Phil Fish. Guy was a pretty brilliant designer, that had issues he needed to deal with, but chose to react to internet tweets instead of deleting or ignoring them. It's almost as if this video paints him as the victim. But Yet he's the victim of himself. Guy told off people who bought his game on steam. Yea, steam you know the bread and butter of your sales for your game. Then went on during that Q/A with Johnathon Blow to insult japanese developers and the culture, where pretty much the level headed Blow tried to salvage the whole thing. NEWS FLASH, FEZ'S basic pixel look and level design is owed to Japanese games from the late 80's and 90's. Guy needed a shrink or a leave from the internet and FEZ, but thought he was the best thing since sliced bread int eh industry, people called him out on his pretentciousness and he bitched, they bitched back. Dude needed to seriously just focus, release the game, let the reviews and sales speak for themselves, and then take a little vacation. The fact that so many Indie developers are successful withtout pissing off their fanbase is showing that it was more of him than anything. You Can't be toxic or reactive on the internet, there's no verbal or informational filter. If you said something in an email it's sent only to that person, or a letter even. You tweet or talk on a message board everyone can see it. And not everyone will understand the context of it. This video is just trying to say that "we don't understand Phil" making him the victim. He made himself the victim, and I feel bad for the guy because he's talented. And he had a ruff go just getting the game to market. But part of it was social, and he had this chip on his shoulder that doesn't need to be there. John blow doesn't act like he does, want to know why? He's got one game that people know about, the witness still isn't out yet. Team meat don't act like phil does?

javierortiz82 : Fish has became the center of a spiral of bullshit that should ashame anyone. Yeah, he made mistakes on social media, we all are opinionated but he made it public and didn't understood the scope of social networks. He failed maybe at being too honest and certainly should have restrained of replying everything that flooded his inbox, but as the video points out, we are behind our annonimity wall and can get away from any responsabilities in a way that a famed game dev would not. This hole episode is a shame, the fact that he quited what he likes to do and people seem to find content on it speaks a lot about our culture. I hope he is doing well and maybe give developing another try, talented people are a dime a dozen.

Peter Coffin : This is a brilliant video.

Smitteys86 : I don't really have an opinion on Phil Fish, and if I did, I certainly wouldn't want to voice it because that would attract flamer faster than a cow turd attracts flies. All I want to say is that if I got as much hatred as he did on a daily basis, I would probably do the same thing and quit. Doing what you love isn't worth putting up with the whole world slinging mud at you constantly.

Pepe Mora : 18:23 I don't agree that if you are part of a "minority" you may experience worse levels of hatred in the same situation as Phil. Maybe I didn't understand that quite well. Anyway, good video.

Creedence Rigby : "problematic generalization" "games culture" "have a conversation" d r o p p e d

JE Hoyes : I've never heard of Nickelback.

Satchbag's Goods : Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Solid thoughts. Looking forward to more. Got a Twitter handle?

Swindlesween : This is a good, neutral standpoint that everyone who 'hates Phil Fish' should watch.

KaoshimaCheshire : >implying that praising Sarkeesian is a positive thing

Shadow111111 : This Is Phil Fish He's an idiot. End of video. Also this video is VERY about defending him.

Mirjam Heijn : This video is an amazing example of defending someone for not taking responsibility for their actions.

ProtoMario : You can learn from other peoples mistakes, and if you learn fast enough, you can prevent yourself from becoming the next Phil Fish.

Guilherme Santos : Look, i always try to be neutral with this kind of stuff, always. Let me tell you why i can't be neutral with Phil Fish. I mean, i work in a group of gamedevs in my college, it's like 20 guys in a room working on 4 different projects, trying to be horizontal and cooperative and organic as Valve is. And that's nuts, that means we always discuss a lot about the steps we make, and i mean A LOT. And it's really stressing, i've got really pissed some times. I've said a bunch of stupid things in reunions, things that if someone had a mic on them, it could be bad for me, really bad. But nothing i've ever said could be compared to that shit phil said to that japanese guy. That was cruel, rude, cocky and unnecessary in ways i can't describe. He deserve all the hate just for that phrase. alone(if he had stop at "your games suck", it would be fine, really, but he kept going, talking shit, endlesssly, that was terrible) So, yeah, fuck him, i don't care.

Austin Vickers : Do a "This is Sean Murray"

maxwell simon : I think Phil Fish is an interesting guy, and I really enjoyed his game.

Caleb Kuester : I found this video while following links after googling "why does everybody hate Nickelback?" So... Nickelback was bad because everybody liked it and/or because someone tried to make money from it. That makes perfect sense. I guess that's why I can't seem to fit in with trendy d*bags. I refuse to base my opinions on what everyone else thinks and I happen to think "making money" is neither a crime, nor out of the ordinary.

foodice11 : Showing support for anita sarkeesian isn't a good thing.

Lol Lol : Anita Sarkeesians Comment on her : "She is a JEW" i just forgot how hilariously stupid the internet can be sometimes

ɢᴀᴍᴇʀ ᴅᴜᴅᴇ™ : apparently stealing code from your former co-workers and using it without crediting them is A-OK

PhantomSausage : Well... at least he's not Amy Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, or Jonathon McIntosh.

Sporkaganza : 90% of the comments on this video are missing the point. Despite the focus on Phil Fish, this video isn't actually ABOUT him. It's using him as an example. The description even says "a case study in internet celebrity." It certainly isn't a defense of him, except to the extent that it's a defense of everyone who's ever gotten famous on the Internet.