Seinfeld vs It's Always Sunny: When Should a Show End?

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wow717 : I have thought so many times that It's Always Sunny can't possibly keep going and is going to start declining in quality and then every season is better than the last!! But I agree, I hope they call it quits before it stops being good!

Julia Lehner : Sunny hasn’t even BEGUN to peak

MNDFND : Always sunny should end with gang throwing Frank in the trash

Tim Zhai : Sunny should never end—your smug aura mocks me

jonnyt8524 : I'd argue they're well into their end phase. After around season 10 or 11. Sunny started to actually wrap up long standing plot threads. Cricket has had the chance to go back to what could have been a normal life, but instead chose to accept that that life has gone now. Dee got a taste of fame and realised how miserable she'd still be, she's also found that she's as stir crazy as her brother when she gets a little power. Charlie got the Waitress and found out he'd been obsessed with the idea of her rather than her, he also recently admitted to having been molested, although refuses to deal with the event with uncle Jack. Mac has admitted to being gay and got buff, but hasn't matured at all, he's still the same rudderless follower who has found a replacement for god in progressivism. Dennis left to peruse the normal family life and found that he craves the adoration of _minions._ He's also now slipping nicely into full blown psychopath territory as his delusions are becoming more easily observed. They've all fulfilled the natural character arcs that the series has been teasing for years, or ones that are common character ending storylines in other shows. And when they fulfilled their arcs, they essentially fell back into the status quo. Having not grown from even achieving their character's purpose. It fits grimly into the sitcom deconstructionist themes they've built over the years. Depressingly insinuating that even a character's ultimate purpose is as hollow as the misery that gets them there. Because everyone is doomed to repeat the same mistakes as pain is easier than growth. It's building up to a sudden end. Where either the show leaves us firmly in the knowledge that these people will never grow and adjust the destructive cycles that they live in, or by suddenly killing them all off in an absurd and unexpected, likely grizzly death. Atleast that's how I see it. As for Frank, he probably dies snorting coke out of a _dirty whooore's snatch._ And gets thrown in the trash.

ShellShock794 : Everyone that dislikes Sunny is a *SAVAGE* and an *IDIOT*

THE TRASHMAN : Last night's always sunny was classic. Mac and Charlie: ass kickers united

Simon Thomas : Sunny's lack of canned laughter, bogus awards, and sheer bravery will make me sad to see ot all end.

Paul Vollmer : I think that they will do 15 maybe 16 seasons, I think that they want the record for longest running live action scripted sitcom.

TimeFor : There was nothing wrong with the ending of Seinfeld. You tell me a better way to end. I'm listening...

William Velez : I saw an interview with Glenn howerton (denis) and he said that sunny only dose 10 to 12 episodes a season to try to avoid running out of ideas, so hopefully it will be years before sunny is cancled

swapsplat : The Office went on WAY too long. Even before Steve left it was getting really stale. That being said, the finale was fantastic.

My Enemy's Enemy : Arrested Development could have ended with Season 3 and it would now be regarded as the best sitcom of all time

The Dark Knight : The first 3 episodes of season 13 weren’t great but the last two were on par with the rest of the series. Hopefully the quality picks back up and personally I would be fine with 15-20 seasons. I hope the show lives on for at least a few more years and I think maybe because season 12 was so fantastic maybe we all have higher expectations for season 13. All I’m saying is that I trust Rob, Glenn, and Charlie to end the show when it’s a good time for it.

MNDFND : I’m stilling laughing out loud at the new season so I’m fine.

ianisthestar : Another thing to take into consideration is the season versus episode amount. Always Sunny has 13 seasons but only 137 episodes. They only make 10 A year which is nice for creativity. Seinfeld however had 180 episodes and 10 seasons and were forced to make more in a shorter time.

Matthew McDonald : I didnt like the ending of Seinfeld when I first watched it, but years later it's a fitting ending. The Seinfeld gang did terrible things over the years. They committed crimes, and jail was a fitting end for them.

Andrew : Always Sunny is still funny and only getting funnier

OpenMicRejects : Danny DeVito is the Ruth Bader Ginsburg of television. Don't Die and ruin everything!

Andrew Blaze : About the Seinfeld ending: it's a parody of Camus's The Stranger. In it the lead is randomly drawn into a murder and is convicted because of his complete indifference toward society The finale wasn't about showing the leads as awful people. Its about showing the society they live in as completely absurd

Tony L : 2 greatest shows in television history hands down

BluntAustralian : Always Sunny at it's worst shits all over Seinfeld at its best.

Classy-ass Mothafucka : There will be no "Our Seinfeld". The choices are too diverse. The Seinfeld numbers had the "There's nothing on" principle working in their favor a lot of the time. There were only so many channels and Seinfeld was in a prime slot. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on the other hand... is born into a new paradigm... that actually benefited it in gaining it's initial audience... but will hamper making it "Our Seinfeld". People have the choice to ignore it... and they have the choice to binge it. There will never be another show like Seinfeld. If you don't remember the airing of the final episode... it was literally BIG NEWS. The News was covering the last episode and doing the countdown to it and the reactions after it. Commercials were promoting the last episode for WEEKS. It was... not unlike the superbowl. The next day, you KNEW what people would be talking about when you get to the water-cooler. If a finale of It's Always Sunny were to happen, most likely you get to the water cooler... and nobody saw it... yet... the people who want to see it will watch it on their own time.

Jacques DeLyons : Did you guys actually make up your own mind about the finale or just copy the opinions of media outlets? The finale was fantastic because it underlined the sociopathic nature of the main cast through their apathetic attitude towards incarceration. This fact is highlighted by the scene in the jail cell where Jerry goes on to George about the buttons on his shirt or something like that, completely disregarding the apparent seriousness of their situation.

Alex Walker : Season 13 was a massive disappointment

Savannah Kendrick : I love sunny. I do feel by far the most memorable and best seasons are up to 8. But, I can still appreciate and love everything they do in their new seasons too. Season 13 is just fine for me, not amazing but not bad by ANY means. I had been wondering how things were going to go when Kaitlyn Olsen was doing The Mick, and Glenn Howerton doing some other show, but as long as Danny Devito is around too I think theyll do alright. I could see a 15-16 season finale though.

SirPumpkinSlice : Ending on top is gutless. You go until you are stopped.

Armando E. Torre Puerto : I liked Seinfeld's finale just fine. It's a bit surreal compared with the rest of the series, but it makes sense to make a statement to remind us that they are awful people

Keven Ardon : New Sunny is too meta now and and self referencial, it's like a shell of its former self focusing more on the new political trends rather than actual story and character progression, I would've loved to see what happened with Dennis and the child but sadly they just forgot about it and used it as a copout for one episode 🤷🏽‍♂️

Harrison Klebold : Terrible pretend analysist

theflyingdonkeypunch : I think since season 11 Sunny has really declined. Dennis is too psychotic, Mac is too openly Gay and it's just too Meta now and Charlie sleeping with the waitress was a mistake. I appreciate that they always try different things but it just hasn't done it for me for a while. I'll always love it though and Dennis is always the Golden God

Brady Smith : I’m sorry but Sunny took a sharp dive in quality after season 8. It now feels too scripted, stale. It doesn’t feel organic anymore, and they messed with the formula too much.

Dakota M : So if Seinfeld's final episode broke the characters down will Always Sunny final episode redeem the characters and turn them into good people? Also I'm not that worried about Always Sunny ruining their show by going on to long or having a bad final season. HIMYM and the office had a bad last couple seasons and I still like both series a lot and recommend them to people. I just tell me not to get their hopes up for the ending.

Justin Y Not. : Breaking Bad-excellent show perfect way to finish up Walking dead- just die already damnit

Alex Murray : In my opinion the past 2 Sunny seasons have been trash. It’s like they’re trying too hard with the same jokes...

Justin Thomas : It's Always Sunny should end in Season 14. I originally would believe the season 12 finale could've ended the series because it felt like the gang finally grew up but assured us they will still be terrible people. But, with season 13 trolling us with Dennis coming back I believe the gang should never grow as people.

James Hughes : Love sunny and hope it never ends but after s12 being so great this latest s13 has driven off a cliff in poor writing and for the first time wooden acting. 4 epps in we have had only one passable eppisode. Really hope it goes back to stength but it says something when the first 3 eppisodes are back to back the worst in their run. Maybe as much as we would all like more they should have ended with 12 :(

You&I : Its already there. Last season is the end of classic ASiP for me. Now is like 1 joke per episode and rest is SJW stench. I never thought I will be fast forwarding and skiping scenes in ASiP but here I am. Humor isnt there anymore. Dialogues are lacking and feeling forced. They lost the edge. They are in their 40s. Im in my 30s. Everythings sucks :D

D. A. : Season 1 through 11 were side splittingly funny. Season 12 was solid but definitely not at that gold standard of the previous seasons. The current Season 13 is absolute garbage. Mindy Kaling sucked, there is no such thing as having an escape room in your own apartment, and I couldn't even finish that episode about the women competing to drink the most on the plane.

William Diaz : Season 13 was trash with only 3 episodes being really good and the rest being trash.

VERONA : no no no you just dont get it do you!! Clearly Sunny in Season 12 intended to go down the yawn typical Friends and all other long running comedies...character development particularly Dennis...only to fool us by coming back totally intact and wicked as ever for season 13. Thats what they do. Mack gaining weight season 7 etc Seinfeld was at its peak season 7,8 and 9...really was...couldnt easily of done another season. No final would work.

Chins Diesel : Seinfeld was great. Its always sunny WAS great. Season 13 blows. Episode 1 was not funny Episode 2 was not funny Episode 3 was not funny Episode 4 was okay Episode 5 was funny Hopefully the next couple of episodes will be funny

acid flashback : I think one foot in the grave had the worst finale.

Lester Nygaard : Clever showing the little South Park snippet, I stopped watching that show many seasons ago.

Conor C : South Park and It's Always Sunny jumped the shark many seasons ago and have been getting worse and worse. Two of my favorite shows. Very sad, but ultimately they've provided hours and hours of content that I just have to marvel at the quantity of high caliber shit they've produced. Even still they should call it quits so they can keep from further tarnishing their reputation like The Simpsons has (how that show continues to be on the air is beyond me).

Damian Rivera : Always Sunny is a better t.v. show.

ChumpTown : I loved the Seinfeld finale, can't understand why people don't like it

Quentin Gray : Can you do a video about how much Jack Donaghy from 30 Rock is worth

DannyWilliamH : Haven't started the video yet and want to get my pretty unpopular opinion out before I watch something that may disagree with me. Always Sunny is an all-time great show but I've been saying that it isn't funny anymore for a while. The last 2.5 seasons have produced about 3 or 4 episodes worth watching. Most don't even make me smile, let alone laugh anymore. Beyond just not being funny anymore, they all look...odd. They're older but they're all trying not to look 45ish in actual life. All but DeVito have had obvious plastic surgery that doesn't look right for the show. It's strange to look at on top of the cameras getting better and better, a Hindrance to a show like Always Sunny. Mostly it's just bad, lazy writing. I see it now and it's obvious that they're just in it for the check. That's fine, btw! I just won't pretend it's still a good show. It's an all-time great but only up to a couple seasons ago. Seinfeld? It could have kept going, IMO. Yet, I agree with most critics that it's best to go out on top. It had basically done all it could do creatively and would have met the same fate Sunny has now but they didn't allow that. The final episode sucked but I didn't really care about that. However, Seinfeld is a show that started poorly, IMO. That first season is hard to watch compared to the last few.