The Fall of The Simpsons: How it Happened

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Libe Jenkins : I always think that we are SO fortunate to have the simpsons original seasons. Is just a pure true miracle of television genius.

DrewIsSharing : say cool whip

Ducks snorting Quack : Even though I agree that the older ones are the best - the Simpsons is my childhood and quite frankly for the Simpsons to end would sadden me. I still find something to laugh at in the modern episodes, even if they're not as great.

tingles with flyby ASMR : Great analysis. So compelling. I was just going to watch a bit and couldn't stop watching.

Rothur The Paladin : That scene of Seymour yelling at his mother on the hill made me bust out laughing. But also made me miss the show and how great it was.

where is danny black : I often wonder what the Simpsons would have been like if the characters would have actually aged in each season.. almost like a real TV show

Anonymous : In my opinion they ruined Homer's character. He was always dim-witted and thus a goldmine for jokes. But in latest episodes I've seen he's just an imbecile.

Maz Smith : Just an incredible write up to my once all time favourite show. I rarely feel more meloncholy than when I think of how much I enjoyed the simpsons when I was younger.

Mathias Chapdelaine de Feu : One thing I resent about the Simpsons is the missed opportunity. It defined the 90's, and should have ended on a high note when that decade ended. But, because it still continues to this day, it seems watered down, trying to represent not only 1990-1999, but 2000-2009 as well as 2010-2018. I'm insulted by this. It's like the "I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread" aesthetic of Bilbo Baggins from Tolkien. Seinfeld was also a show that defined the 1990's, and had the sense to end on a high note before the decade ended. That's how I wish to die, on a high note, without a long, drawn out death surrounded by family members mourning me for the multiple years it takes for me to slowly rot away and die. My dad went out like that, and it may seem a bit dark, but as I witnessed the whole drawn out nightmare, I would probably pay someone 20 million dollars(if I had it) to simply shoot me square between the eyes with a 51 Caliber Rifle rather than slowly rotting away in a hospital surrounded by weeping relatives. This is the reason I don't watch the show anymore. It reminds me of the worthless and meaningless suffering of my father in his last 2 years of life.

Starbuck : I'm like you mate - I treat them as two separate shows - the first show I loved, and the second show I just don't find funny. And you know what?! I'm ok with that. I'll just watch the original Simpsons and enjoy every moment of it as it is the best fictional cartoon show ever. If people like the second show too - then good for them!

Rakk : You know, I genuinely want to hear your opinion on the Simpsons movie. What are your thoughts on it?

daniel velaswuez : Classic Simpson's was gold

Mark Wuahlbuargg : I know this video isn't exactly recent, but I noticed something I just couldn't let go. At 13:09 when listing Homer's character traits, you wrote glutinous instead of gluttonous. -Gluttonous: Tending to eat and drink excessively; voracious. -Glutinous: Of the nature of glue; gluey; sticky.

SwissCheese667 : Season 8 might be a bit more absurd, but the episodes mentioned here are absolute classics in my eyes (OK, except maybe the one where Homer's boxing). Bart working in the Maison derrière has such a classy, zesty touch to it (that ending song OMG), plus it fits really well with his character (he always tries to pull card tricks on people)! And let's not forget the episode's acerb social critique (hypocrisy of Springfield's moral elite). In "Homer's Ennemy", Homer might be acting too much of a fool for some to stomach, but the episode is fucking hilarious and the idea behind it is pretty brilliant (a "real life" working man confronted with the crazytown that is Springfield). Finally, the episode with Mary Poppins - ehm... I mean Sherry Bobbins, of course - might well be my all time favourite Simpsons episode! Man, what an incredible parody! Apart from the awesome songs (some of which contain, again, a good dose of social criticism - "It's the American way!") and the hilarious jokes, the concept itself is fucking brilliant : who else could fix this fucked up family if not the best Nanny the world has ever seen? But no, she fails miserably (and gets aspirated in a airplane engine ^^). I mean, this is fucking genius and fits the spirit of the show - as described in this video - perfectly ! Season 8 fucking rules, no matter what anybody else says! :-)

xPigeon : 4k+ people are in denial.

Fizzypills : Okay I know The simpsons are supposed to be a satire of the current times but i feel like the show would be so much better today if the simpsons still lived in the 90's. Idk

Krish Nair : I don’t know if this was a coincidence but the new Simpson opening you chose has Bart writing thank you to Taylor Swift which emphasises your point on how the Simpsons just praises every new pop culture thing

Johnny Bravo : Ffs

coldblooded kidder : this is why it's better to kill it quick rather than letting it die off a slow agonizing death. there's a saying "always keep 'em wanting more" Game of thrones will be over after season 8 .i could keep watching for another 10 seasons....but i bet my attitude would be different after seeing those 10 more seasons....quit while you're ahead

Pop Land : Money, money and more fucking money is a driving factor in a lot of this!! It was too big and lucrative to stop. Great Irsh accent btw. I'm going to guess Dublin??😊

Yoyo Han : The intro had me shook

Emily L : I'm crying. Really I am. You hit the nail on the head describing the Simpsons downfall I'm this video. I grew up with the show, and consider myself a HUGE fan. ONLY until season 10. It is a totally different show now.

Gyrbae : Hotline Miami soundtrack representing

Good Music : I don't get the hate for season 8. It wasn't as great as seasons 2-7, but it was still really good. I'd says seasons 1 and 8 are good, 2-7 are great, and in total seasons 1-8 is the best show in TV history. Season 9 is where the show fell off in my opinion.

addishat : The Simpsons already did it actually, that's pretty damn funny. In Episode 7 of Season 5, 'Bart's Inner Child' this same thing happens to Bart. Lisa summarizes the situation for him thusly: Bart: "Lis, everyone in town is acting like me. So why does it suck?" Lisa: "It's simple, Bart: you've defined yourself as a rebel, and in the absence of a repressive milieu your societal nature's been co-opted."

CarrotShaker : 12:06 *S T E A M E D H A M S*

Sal Dimarchese : i think a better question would be, the did simpsons change or did we? you make a good point about how the shows during the 80s offered a more wholesome view of the typical american family, it's true, what made the simpsons" cool" was that it offered a more edgy, rebelious view of middle america, well in reality it mocked it, the 80s were still pretty conservative , reagan was president not long before the simpsons started. rebelion is seen as being cool. when 30 years later the social and moral fabric of america is in the gutter, after 30 years of going away from christianity, conservatism, how can the simpsons be edgy and cool, when what it got famous for mocking, doesn't exist anymore?? the only way it could have stayed relevant, and cool would be do a 360, staying with its counter culture roots, and mocking the liberal establishment, going after hollywood, but that would't happen.

Molossus : The Simpsons grew strong when there was the need for an alternative show format. By the end of the 90s South Park and Family Guy caught up, Mtv had its peak, internet grew exponentially on a commercial level, online gaming became a thing; and The Simpsons had to compete against a new form of entertainment that surely affected ratings.

David Meyer : 12:06 Steamed Hams

Neptun : 12:10 WELL SIEMOUR I MADE IT

Dr. moxley : liberalism destroyed it

hacker007two : people how dislike this video are brain washed

jacksn hawker : I stopped watching after Tomacco...

Chuu Etteck My R : DAMN! Ya know, I enjoyed a few of the newer episodes, catching them on occasion, but easily forgot them. Coming into this video I thought it would just be all about the nostalgia lenses ruining people's perception of anything new. BUT YOU SIR, have proved me wrong. For YEARS I would be annoyed by people simply saying "it's not the same anymore" which usually is the throw away line by those stuck in nostalgia. But then you pointed out how much the quality of the writing has declined because of how many of the writers dropped off over the years, how much the joke structures changed, and even more importantly how less dimensional the characters have become. I will now admit my wrong beliefs and say that Modern Simpsons is NOT as good as Classic Simpsons, and people are NOT just blindly nostalgic over Classic Simpsons. You have basically put to words what my friends could not convey. Not sure if you're a writer yourself, but seeing how much insight you have on its importance and nuances, I will safely assume that you are. With that I will say from one writer to another, you really did your homework and substantiated your points with more than sufficient reason and evidence!!! No wonder The Simpsons lost its heart, the people who influenced it's true feel left the show long time ago, whereas we've got South Park actually getting BETTER over the years because Matt and Trey, the original creators from day one, have stuck with it through and through instead of handing it off to people who are unequipped with the right knowledge to handle the property. Plus it has retained its satire and attack on pop culture while developing more and more heart over the years.

Ajna : Wow that lady gage episode was absolutely cancer

Laura Ess : This actually explains much.

Mark Strouthes : Yeah. Put this series out of its (and our) misery. It's time.

Rampage Clover : They've gotten extremely lazy. Too many guest stars, overly-ridiculous pop culture references and no real depth...

ronjon83 : It's a crime to not mention Married with Children as it directly paved the way to Simpsons getting on Fox.

Leo W : I think it’s worth noting the current ages of the principal cast members (Dan Castellanata, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright, Yeardley Smith, Harry Shearer and Hank Azaria). The youngest is Azaria, who, as of the time of writing this, is 53. The oldest is Harry Shearer, currently 74 (Shearer was already well into his forties by the time the show began). The others are all in their fifties or sixties. The show’s already lost a few actors, namely Doris Grau (who voiced Lunchlady Doris, as well as several other bit parts; she wasn’t an actress by trade, but a script supervisor, but always managed to sound hilariously bitter and defeated), Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks (who played Manjula Nahasapeemapetilon) and Marcia Wallace. Afaik they still haven’t replaced Mrs Krabappel (who apparently died offscreen). None of the main cast are young anymore. The show can seemingly drag on after Wallace’s death, but what about when Shearer passes away? Can the show carry on without so many of its most important secondary characters? Shearer voices Principal Skinner, Flanders, Mr Burns, Smithers, Kent Brockman and so many other of the show’s best-known non-family members. FOX currently owns the rights to the show til the 2080s. Unless they have a way of keeping the main cast alive until well after they turn 100, how do they plan on keeping the show running?

soran27 : for those who lived through it we all knew what happened (i was born in 1983): Groening decided to work on Futurama and took a lot of good people with him. I'm grateful for all all the entertainment and glad Mr. Groening got to follow his creativity.

Brian Hale : Has anyone from The Simpsons commented on this in interviews, twitter or elsewhere? Very curious as they have insisted in the past that the show hasn't changed, we have. Which is obviously not the case.

Reptilia tv : Doesn't everyone ignore the Simpsons now? For a long time it was my favourite tv show; but who agrees with me that US programmes don't know when to stop on a high? To give a UK perspective, I was gutted when "Fawlty Towers" stopped after two series, but now I understand why

Richard Johansson : Worships pop culture..so true that is

Martin Rodriguez : You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain 😔

Hau Ruck : I love everything up to season 10. seasons 11 and 12 have some good episodes but once you hit 13 you really notice how bad it is. It's like Boondocks season 4. suddenly you aren't dying with laughter, you're sort of forcing yourself to laugh on the assumption that the next joke will be better.

Fly Bird : used to be smart humour, now it's just dumbed down for all the stupid people now

Buggar : The later episodes of the Simpsons can be so political, even moreso than it use to be. It's tiresome.

ICallsEmLikeISeesEm : This was outstanding. Just outstanding. Like some of the others who have already left comments, I thought that this was just going to be some uneducated goon echoing the same hollow rants about how the show just used to be better because now it sucks. But no, this guy GETS it. He carefully examines each of the important elements that made the show so good - the writing, the character, the identity, the craft, the balance between heart and cynicism. Then he systematically deconstructs each one, demonstrating how they have simply faded away leaving a watered-down parody in its wake. My god, there are so many things that I want to quote, so many things that I want to reference, but to do so would be pointless. I'd just be reiterating what was already said. This video is the finest, most reasoned explanation for why the show isn't just worse than it used to be, but rather isn't even really the same show, period. One thing in the video that really stood out to me was the demonstration of the layered joke, and how integral it was to the show's earlier success. I loved that segment of the video not only because I feel it's spot-on, but because I myself have long argued the same thing. I frequently refer to the "Bort" gag in the 6th season episode "Itchy and Scratchy Land". In it, Bart is looking for a souvenir vanity license plate at the gift shop and is stunned to see that one with his name isn't available, but one that reads "BORT" is. That's already amusing. Who the hell has ever heard of "Bort"? But then, as Bart voices this, a nearby woman just happens to walk by with her son Bort in tow. There's joke number 2. Then, as the woman calls her son to come along, a random man standing nearby mistakenly thinks that she was talking to him, since he is also named Bort. There's joke number 3. Rapid fire, boom boom boom, three "punchlines" for the price of one. And THEN, after just enough time has gone by to allow you to forget about the joke, it comes back one more time in the form of a background character making a call to his supervisor that "we need more BORT license plates in the gift shop". Because, apparently, still MORE Borts showed up to buy them. That's joke number four. Four funny punchlines from one single setup, all unfolding naturally and in a way that does not rely on celebrity cameos or the destruction of any of the main characters. It's brilliant. I've got the first dozen Simpsons seasons on my PC (that's as far as I myself am interested in going) and I notice that when I put the episodes on a shuffled playlist I can often (though not always) gauge roughly where in the run the episode came from. It's funny that even though I like all 12 seasons I can still detect the curve, still sense the changing quality. You notice things that you like less, you realize that one season has more average episodes than great ones, you miss when a character was this way as opposed to that way and then you're stunned that it took only a season or two to make the switch. It's kind of surreal. The Simpsons used to be a wonderful show - seasons 3 through 9 are what I'd consider to be the golden age, with seasons 5 through 8 being pretty much the peak, and then...well, again, after about season 12 I just quit watching. The show just isn't what it used to be. Not because I pine for my childhood, not because those earlier seasons represent some magic moment in my life. Nope, just because that's when the show had - as described in this video - identity and craft. It's a shame that we can never go back (I can't even stand to look at the slick, CGI enhanced, overproduced art style anymore), but I'll always be grateful for what used to be.

doubleP : You can basically sum it up with 3 points: 1). the best writers gradually left,to work on other projects. 2).the concept changed from subversive satire to more generic sitcom. 3). the show went on for too long.