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Get 10% off your first purchase at Squarespace.com by going to: http://squarespace.com/nitpix Pixar is one of the greatest film studios of all time, but that mojo that was so present in the early days is now fading. This makes us ask the following questions; Did we need a sequel to Monsters Inc, Toy Story, Finding Nemo and Incredibles? Is Inside Out and Coco a cinematic masterpiece? Is Pixar dead? #Pixar #Incredibles2 Merch: https://www.nitpix.co.uk Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/NitPix Second Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPSEq7RFYm5Usypxm2BbBZA Discord: https://discord.gg/UXRMMjx Twitter: https://twitter.com/NitPix Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/nitpix Complete Playlist of all NitPix music: https://t.co/IC9jDZTOju Full Track List: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqjjk7

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24 Frames Of Nick : I always forget about the existence of The Good Dinosaur

Pαηdα : im only here to keep it real with you chief but the second part of this video really aint it. if bugs life gets a pass but not coco, then its pretty obvious your nostalgia came into play.

Flat Earth Is the truth : I love how he praises Bug’s Life And then barely skims over Up and Wall-E And then shits on Coco Saying it’s only for kids Even though the movies he liked were released when he was a kid

Joaquín Prando : I was agreeing with this video almost 100% until you reached Coco... Coco is a VERY powerful film that wouldn't even begin to be understood by "little little babies". My four year old cousin loved the songs and the colors, but he didn't even begin to grasp why his mother and I were bawling our eyes out when Mama Coco began to sing. My own grandmother had Alzheimer's and had recently passed away when I watched Coco. This film hit extremely close to home and became a more powerful movie than what A Bug's Life will ever be, even given my 20 years old as I watched a "film for little little babies". I think you're being the one driven by nostalgia and the reason why member movies exist, because whenever they innovate and do things RIGHT like Inside Out or especially Coco, someone comes and says "But Toy Story... And Monsters Inc.... And Up..." I love all of those movies but I still allow myself to love some of these new Pixar films as well. I don't think Pixar is dead, I think some people are way too fond of their past and nostalgia and unwilling to accept that a new film might have the same or more meaning than one of the classics. Coco deals with such deep, complex and mature themes that Toy Story, A Bug's Life and Monsters Inc. don't even get close to. If you ask me, death and remembrance of those who are no longer with us is much more mature theme than accepting who you are (as important as the latter might be). And you criticize Coco's villain for being "overly melodramatic"... That was the whole point of it. I now question how skilled you actually are at judging movies that you didn't grow up with.

A Turtle : I think this dude is having a "My generation had better movies than you." complex lol. I've grown up on Pixar, by far Toy Story was my favorite as a child but to say A Bug's Life is better than Coco? I don't think I've ever met someone who said A Bug's Life is their favorite movie lol. Also to write off Coco as "bland story telling/predicable" is lazy in itself. There was so much culture and complex story telling within Coco with Family vs Fame and to write it off as "selfish brown boy wants to play music" is appalling.

Amanda the Jedi : I was fine with Toy Story 3... but dear god why Toy Story 4

Jarron Williams : your analysis of CoCo and Inside Out were very weak. You really had to stretch the idea that Ratatouille was better than CoCo. I think you would have been better off acknowledging that inside out and coco were exceptions but instead you lobbied these really odd and super specific criticisms at these movies, which to different extents could be lobbied at all the pixar movies. It's like you did your best to find reasons for calling the movies bad, rather than genuinely believing them to be uninspired or poorly thought out.

Alex Bennet : “The Day of the Dead doesn’t tie into the themes” Did you even watch Coco? But seriously, I see a lot of conformation bias here. A Bug’s Life is hardly some iconic masterpiece, but you seem to be really exaggerating how good the older films were while desperately gripping on to any perceived flaws in the newer ones.

kees N1 : Bugs Life over coco?what drugs are you on.

BingoPer48 _ : S H R E K

ThePaperMask : Whatever you do, Pixar, *you may never touch Rattatoulie. No sequel-making. Shoo.*

Ace Coordinator Mary : "Doesn't explore the idea of loss." The movie has several scenes of this or were you just not paying attention?

Oliver Anderson : Mmmm...Idk, some of these points seemed like double standards. For example, you complain about Inside Out not having a rich enough world, but then you complain about Coco not being as good as Ratatouille despite it having much more distinct visual storytelling. It also takes a much different look at the concept since the family does actually have an understandable reason for their resentment toward the main character's passion, while Remy's family is boring and forgettable. The villain in Ratatouille is also trash, while the villain in Coco is genuinely surprising and threatening. You can make any film sound better or worse if you focus on very specific elements, but to someone who's seen all these movies, you sound biased. It seems like you like older Pixar because that's what you grew up with and you just don't like Coco and Inside Out as much because they're newer. You really think Toy Story is a far more mature story than either of those? It's a fantastic movie, don't get me wrong, but calling Coco and Inside Out "baby movies" in comparison to Toy Story of all things. Also, you didn't have any criticism for A Bug's Life? Really? What deep nuances did you see in that film that made it a classic that's far more memorable than anything from new Pixar? I mean, it's fine if you like it, but that film is very forgettable. Let's be honest, people don't talk about that movie like they do Toy Story or Finding Nemo. There's a reason it's one of the movies that hasn't gotten a sequel. It also seems weird how Disney's meddling was a good thing when it gave us the Toy Story everyone knows and loves, but it's a bad thing once sequels are involved. You're entitled to your opinion, but this script sounds a lot like some old man complaining that "things were better back in my day!" It's like your nostalgia makes you more forgiving of films you grew up with, so you don't criticize A Bug's Life, but now that you're an adult, you can criticize Coco and Inside Out all you want and claim Pixar is dead. I know I'm just repeating myself, but I wanna make sure that I'm being clear. I'm not accusing you of being a nostalgia junkie. I'm just saying that's what this script sounds like. I'd recommend making sure your points are more balanced in the future so you can better argue your case. When your judgment is skewed in favor of one side, those who notice are more likely to dismiss your entire argument.

Mario Carrillo : The one thing I really disagree with is your perspective on Coco. The reason Miguel is always protected by his ancestors is to show the value and importance of family, a big part of Mexican culture. In Mexican culture, family is considered a singular unit. All the members of a Mexican family act as a unit. And that is why Miguel's ancestors are so protective, to symbolize the importance of family in their culture. Also, Coco doesn't take risks? I don't think we watched the same movie. Coco had a big risk: making a film that accurately portrays Mexican culture, a culture which is filled with stereotypes in American films, in a time where anything in this area can offend people, as anything can be considered a stereotype at this point. Also, it even took a technological risk: the details in the Land of the Dead. Just look at the first shot of the Land of the Dead and you'll see what I'm talking about. Other things include the lighting, the details on Mexican objects like the papel picado, the friendly-looking skeleton designs, etc. In regards to the story, Coco always secretly loved her father. She was supposed to hate her father according to her family, even if she really didn't, which is why she kept Hector's letters and the picture hidden from everyone else. She hid her feelings from her family because she knew they wouldn't listen very easily if she just told them her feelings towards her father, since they were so convinced that Hector was the villain. Hector's motivation does change. He goes from just wanting to cross the bridge for seemingly no reason, to wanting to see his daughter who he was forcefully pulled away from. Everything he did in life, was for Coco. And he was separated from her against his will. By the end of the film, he doesn't even want to be remembered out of selfishness. All he wants is to see his daughter one more time, which he did. The attitude of Miguel's family in regards of their hatred for music is actively portrayed as wrong, but at the same time as protective. They think not having music is better for everyone based on one event, which again, is portrayed as wrong at the same time that it's portrayed as somewhat right. Also, A Bug's Life is better than Coco and Inside Out? I disagree on that. That film is very mediocre in comparison imo. It does genuinely feel at times that you are stuck in the past, remembering the older Pixar films as masterpieces, while finding anything to criticize about the newer films. I'm not trying to make you change your mind. I'm just explaining why I disagree with your opinion.

Thanoseph : So you like the childrens movies from your childhood more than you like the children’s movie from your adulthood. Hmmmmm 🤔

yuoma : "these movies are good children's movies, but when framed against the iconic films that made us fall in love with pixar..." (that were released when we were children)

Alia Ris : NO. Lion King ripped off Kimba The White Lion.

Nathan Clukey : Coco and Inside Out are masterpieces. They will be remembered with the very best

Sam J. : Inside Out and Coco are amazing and sure Monsters University wasn’t as awesome as it should’ve been but it was still a fun film.

MrTheharryson : I’m gonna be honest, I actually really loved Inside Out. I get that you didn’t enjoy it as much or believe that it didn’t really live up to Pixar’s “glory days,” but I believe it revived Pixar. I brought my little sister to this movie and I have to admit, it hit me hard. I felt like a kid again watching Incredibles, Finding Nemo, Toy Story, and etc. I’d probably even put it in my top 5 Pixar movies, which is saying a lot. Though your points are valid about the story telling and the story arc, I believe this was necessary. They were not only telling the story of Joy and Sadness, but of Riley as well. Fitting in two different stories that work with one another is a very hard thing to accomplish, which Pixar did (ofc they did, they’re Pixar). I genuinely felt a connection with Riley and the characters and left the theater very satisfied, which had not happened in a very long time.

Fabian Hebestreit : I hated this nostalgia wankfest so much that I cancelled my Squarespace account.

JamesGuiver13 : Did this guy just say that Toy Story 3 is a "weak sequel"? GTFOH!!

Riti Aggarwal : Iconic Pixar films after 2010: Inside Out, Incredibles 2, Coco.... ahem ahem they’re not dying

El1teFire : The opening sequence in Up was so good that it was shown in my writing class for to show what good writing is it was shown in my 7th grade not like I was in college and specializing to become this good writer to make film

The Raikami : Visually speaking, the good dinosaur was amazing. I didn't really enjoy the story tho

tgguitarguy : Monster's University was fantastic. Like what are you sayi........You're a Dreamworks fan aren't you?

CausticEnforcer : How the hell do you praise bugs life But bash coco Like Really???? Dude take off those nostalgia goggles

BowditchXD : To the point about Coco, I don’t think you actually took time to really dissect it. I don’t consider myself a critic, but pretty much instantly I understood the multiple messages the film was trying to get across. First off, the kid wants to be a musician, when his family are staunchly against him doing that, due to his dead grandfather betraying them a long long time ago. If you don’t understand why this is interesting, you probably haven’t been in a Mexican household, because this grudge holding mentality is very real in those types of households. Especially if it relates to their family being betrayed. Plus, there are moments where he is clearly being selfish, or pursuing this just to spite his family, and that’s very different for a character to act selfish in a Pixar film. Also, there’s the M Night Shayamalan twist at the end, which I won’t reveal for the 3 motherfuckers who haven’t seen it. On top of that, there’s also a moment where he’s willing to put his family first and give up music to keep his grandfather alive. If that is not tearjerking storytelling, I don’t know what is. The movie’s great, dog. I’m not normally a guy to say this, but stop hating. They hit a slump for a second, but they’re far from dead.

The Australian guy : Cars is the best. My opinion internet.

tgguitarguy : GO Watch the Remember Me scene at the end of Coco, see if you can keep your eyes from watering. I bet you anything you couldn't. What does that tell you about the movie?

Bella Bozied : “Just because the bugs are cars, doesn’t mean your world is thought through- it just means you made everything a CAR” 😂😂

sum dude : I genuinely don't know why I'm tearing up.

Kodo Elder-Groebe : I think you ripped into Inside Out and Coco our of nostalgia. That fact that Coco follows a simple three act structure isn’t really a criticism. It’s just an observation that it has something in common with most movies, ever. The original Toy Story and the Pixar movies that followed it also played into tropes and cliches. The conflict between Woody and Buzz is a classic new-guy-in-town situation that’s been done many times before. You also don’t give Coco credit for the amount of creative visual style and flair, or for the fantastic music. La Llorona is a great song that is used as a powerful storytelling device. Without words, a huge change in her character is indicated as soon as she starts singing on the stage. It’s things like these, the creative ways that animated films communicate story, that you praise the earlier films for yet ignore for the new ones. I agree that Pixar’s filmography has become rife with sequels everywhere, but the ones that aren’t sequels are still excellent.

Lusion : "At the time these films weren't enough to beat Ice Age, SHREK or Kung Fu Panda at the box office."

Arhum Ahmad : I believe you're experiencing the nostalgia effect. The "my childhood was the best" effect. Coco and Inside Out hold up just as well as those older films. All of these movies are aimed at kids and they all have plot holes Why don't the human adults in monsters inc remember the monsters? Why do the toys feel the need to hide their sentience? How have the humans never found out? Why did the toys scare Sid instead of trying to change him for the better? Why did the dentist keep giving his niece fish if he knew she was going to kill them? There's always SOME holes. But it's an animated movie you're not supposed to think about those things

Da Nintendude : I agree with almost everything except Coco. Although the faults listed were valid, I still thought it was a great and enjoyable movie. It had a lot of depth, not in the things you mentioned, but in Mexican culture. it makes the movie feel a lot better than something like Moana, which had very, very weak cultural representation. A movie shouldn't exist solely to represent culture, but I felt the idea of the Day of the Dead was utilized fairly well, and made the fairly simplistic story a lot more enjoyable.

Helena Niceswanger : I waited a year for Finding Dory! And I LOVED Brave! It was amazing! It was deep but still amazing! I loved inside out, Coco, And Wall-E, And so many others! All these movies are amazing, and I think you tried to get on the case of all these New movies! Please don’t do this to my childhood.

Bessy Rein : Chicken run is undoubtably the best Pixar movie. Walt Disney really did a good job with that one

Lost Legend : What movies did you see? Inside Out and Coco were great

Not Epic Gaming : Ice Age, *_SHREKKKKK_* and Kung Fu Panda

ADHDkid321 : This one's a miss man... I mean... did you ACTUALLY watch Coco?

Libra ad : Coco was sooo great! What are u taking about ???! Its great story and it was sooo emotional i think it brought pixar back in the game

OddTillTheEnd : Okay, but I have a problem with your analysis of Monsters University. While yes, the Scare Games do ultimately teach Mike and Sulley about teamwork and self-worth and all that, it's a mischaracterization to say it has an entirely generic, overdone message. Mike wants to be scary. But he isn't. At the end of the film, he's forced to accept that. There's no kid's film BS about how "he tried really hard and achieved his dream despite the obstacles in his way." No. Mike is slapped in the face with the cruel reality that he has to settle for something else. And make do with it. I think that's a really interesting, subversive message. Plus, I think it's just a fun movie. I don't watch college movies, ever, so the tropes don't wear me out as much as other people, which probably has something to do with my opinion on it. Is it as good as Monsters Inc? Of course not. But don't write it off entirely.

Spooky Factory : Answer: Yes, Pixar died long before Good Dinosaur, which wasn't a bad film at all

Polar GrizBear : Member movies huh? *THATS HOW STAR WARS WORKS*

nathan broad : Cars was amazing. Damn

Elias Montoya : Marvel Studios, where are the car keys

not you : I'll defend Cars 1 and 3 til I die. Weird how they skipped 2 though.

Evan Schooling : Yeah, what everyone else is saying. Spot on analysis until you get to Inside Out and Coco. I've never seen a film so simply and yet completely portray a visual understanding of depression as Inside Out, which I have dealt with most of my life. That movie had me bawling from epiphanies and self-analysis. And Coco had me crying too, and I'm not Mexican. I only mention that to highlight that I definitely don't identify with the themes of family (which many Mexican commenters have pointed out is a fundamental misunderstanding in your analysis). Most of my family kiiiinda sucks and I'm pretty happy that they're not really in my life anymore. But damned if I didn't identify with the themes of finding a way to express yourself in a world that won't let you. I know you kinda just have to take my word for it on this, but I do not cry at movies easily. It takes a lot. Mostly it takes careful and nuanced writing, and thorough and consistent world building. Honestly, Inside Out and Coco kick the shit out of a couple of the first 10. Now a lot of that comes down to opinion. But one thing seems to be consistent among your commenters, and I agree with it, is this; Those two aren't as good as A Bug's Life? Are you fucking high? (on a lighter note, I like most of your videos a great deal, including this one, right up until that bad and nit pickin ass ending......ohhhhhhhh...)