I interviewed someone who got blacklisted from animation and they told me some stuff

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DigbyTheGoat : As someone who wants to get into the industry, this is deeply deeply troubling. At least I can make my independent shit online.

Physical Manifestation of Cancer : If you're an aspiring animator, don't let this discourage you! Knowing the right people is important in many industries. Not having those connections however, will never mean a dead end. Don't let anything stop you; your goal is never out of reach. Edit: Y'all, I just said nothing is completely impossible, I never said it wouldn't be difficult. It's just this video was so exaggeratedly negative and discouraging that I felt something should be said.

Creepy Old Man : Look, you can throw as many “accusations” as you want, but until I see a semblance of proof or evidence, the I’m gonna have to treat this as gossip.

William Rooks : Not to shit on the legitimacy of your totally rad and entirely credible video and all, but wasn't the character of Memow submitted by, and voiced by a literal child simply to make that little kids day? What's that? You didn't even bother to look at the Wikia page on the character before using it as an argument against an animator you dislike for nearly two minutes of your video? This is the quality that we love from our boi EzPz. Truly the critic of a generation.

Anime profile pictures are autistic as fuck : >won't play audio from the person interviewed >won't even mention who the person interviewed is despite being allegedly already blacklisted from the industry so it wouldn't matter >won't do anything to validate their claims or identity >people actually believe in this video for some reason

Super Cosmic Mutant Honey Candle Squid : EVERYTHING mentioned in this video is shit that I have said for years and one of the big reasons I tell people not to apply for CN jobs. I wasn't trying to discourage them but given the history and patterns that CN has with it's staff, I knew it would be a waste of time since they don't actually *HIRE* people but rather just recycle people they know from show to show. I called this shit out LAST YEAR when I saw the line up of the 2017-2018 line up, and it was just people who had worked on new shows. The only new show that CN has that sort of breaks this, even though they could be considered alum at this point given how many shows they've worked on, is Megaman which is headed by Man of Action (MoA). HOWEVER, of all the new shows THIS is possibly one of the best and is given the shit treatment of being only aired at 6 am on SUNDAYS while CN clogs up their airways with the usual shit we are known for them to do. I also knew about the Tumblr shit as well. I knew they were hiring Tumblr artist based on their FOLLOWINGS and POPULARITY, mostly connected to what they said that was flavor-of-the-day on the site, and NOT for their skill. I actually contacted someone who worked on a CN show about 3-4 years ago and gave them a link to what was at the time my art Tumblr which only had a few things on it. The 'suggestion' he gave me was that the lines were too thick and things were too detailed. That's all he said, no other pointers or suggestions. Now...'the lines were too thick and things were too detailed' Take that in.....look at everything that airs on CN right now. And yeah, it's only about the style THEY want, not about actual TALENT. But yeah, been there done that. Saw this shit coming on Tumblr all the way back in 2010. And like I said; I knew kids don't like Steven Universe. The show has nothing for them and is just 15 minuets of a boy crying along with this dumb-ass shit rocks. Compare this to a show like Ladybug, Avatar, or something as simple as Ben 10 (the original) Boy and girls flocked to these shows because they had action, story, cool looking characters, but most of all ACTION. Steven Universe looks ugly, avoids actions, tries to put off its one-lines as comedy and has absolutely NO STORY thanks in part to the crew not knowing how to construct anything given the only thing they care about is showing off how gay these fucking rocks are. The biggest defenders of SU are older teens and adults all the while kids either hate it or don't even know it exist. Sugar can hide behind the whole 'IT'S FOR KIDS' thing all she wants but she knows. She fucking knows. But Jesus. I still want to be a storyboard artist. I still want to be a story writer but....WHY? Why are they letting people like this in? They obviously don't care about animation as a means of art or telling a story, they just pile in a massive circle jerk of shit and with the exception of one or two shows, make ABSOLUTE SHIT. Just...god fucking damn it. And as a final note, the WiA hole is growing larger. My experience with them was shit but holy fuck I had no idea it was going that far. Auuuuuurgh, I don't know whether to be numb, angry but we need to do something. We need something to change the tide to get this shit together.

Fuzzyfurvert : This video is pretty shit tier. You cannot seem to separate yours and the interviewee's opinions, none of this corroborated, and for all the information you may have gained from the interview it seems to align pretty neatly with your pre-established opinions. Like suspiciously so.

Soupman Stevens : There are legitimate criticisms to be had with the animation industry but you keep going off on random tirades about SjWs ArE aDdInG iN LiBeRaL pRoPagAnDa and shit like that which just give away your preconceived biases. I want to know who you interviewed because it sounds like they were blacklisted for a reason lmao

RecklessFire29 : "Guys totally believe me that my source is credible and not someone I made up. Also Bubbline, the thing they've been hinting at for years now? Yeah that was just something some SJW animator tacked on at the very end. BUT I'M TOTALLY NOT LYING IT'S ALL THE SJWS BELIEVE ME.".

Elfarrow : Dude your only evidence is from one source, and you don't even know if that source is telling the truth. I mean, how did one person know so much about everyone else. Seems kinda fishy to me...

Aki F : I think mainstream western animation is dead now...

Bruce Wane : yel·low jour·nal·ism noun journalism that is based upon sensationalism and crude exaggeration. "equating murder and dismemberment with smoking pot is the worst yellow journalism"

SagooBoy : I honestly don't know what to think of this. How can one judge someone on what goes on behind the scenes if there is little to no evidence of what the accusations are? What if the accusers are just jealous of these artists successes and feel validated to accuse them of wrong doing? There is always two sides to every story, and whatever I achieved so far in this industry had nothing to do with nepotism or a big social media following(I don't have that many =P), it's because having a good outlook and woking your ass off in the end will bring you what you want. Some people might achieve things alot earlier than you, but that doesn't mean it's the end. It's game over when you give up all together. I'll ignore the drama and blaze my own path. And FYI, Ian Jones Quartly has worked in animation since 2006 in NY. His relationship with Rebecca Sugar has nothing to do with what success has brought him thus far.

Razorslash : Most of this sounds like an unimaginative gossip post you'd read in a Chan board.

Crystal Summers : The hiring "Women-Oh er-I mean sugar was a mistake" line obliterated your credibility for me. You can criticize a bad Show runner, you can even criticize a bad show runner not being canned Because of their gender without taking a jab at the gender itself. I'm not interested in what you or your alleged "source" have to say anymore.

cat soup : this reeks of "my dad who works at Nintendo told me-..." also lol at all of the homophobia and sexism in the comments, it's a really good look. you're so lazy you couldn't even get a friend to pretend to be the supposed source and just edit their voice.

Pillows Are Cool : LGBT Propaganda? God forbid a group of people be represented in cartoons so that kids can see they are regular people. Everything you described is so unrealistic.

Sofie Petersen : I really don't like the homophobic vibes from this video. I don't see anything wrong with there being a gay kiss if there can be a straight one. It's the same thing

JOE SANCHEZ : this video is uber biased and narrow minded. pure clickbait crap. i only have one question....WHY THIS GUY WAS BLACKLISTED? seriously, why. i ask because, knowing that, we would know his real intentions when he decided to share info with the author of this video. what if the guy is simply bittered and hates the industry, and does this in search for revenge? who is this guy? where he worked? why should we believe him. if he was a real victim, and is blacklisted, which means he cant work on any animation company anymore....WHY REMAIN ANNONYMOUS? it's not like he will ever be unlisted, so...yeah....why give a damn about his identity anymore? sorry, but, if DON BLUTH has nothing but good things to say about animation industry, even after all his mishpas on said industry....i don't think your anomynous "deep throat" character must be believed. sorry, it is basic journalism, HAVE RELIABLE SOURCES, AND CHECK YOUR SOURCES. to me, this is a guy who got fired, and now he is playing the victim and searching revenge by giving the industry a bad name, and yes, it's as stupid as it sounds.

Takedrugskillabear : You raise some good points, but the fact you refuse to mention your source makes it hard to accept all of it, even if some points collaborate with what's going on. The source has already been blacklisted from the industry, what have they got to lose from being mentioned?

millgiass : I'm pretty sure that Ian J. Quartey was working on The Venture Brothers LONG before Sugar OR Adventure Time were even in the industry. I knew of him when he went to college and eventually stopped publishing his "RPG World" and "Ian Comics" webcomics. Considering he was in the final act of his RPG World Comic, the fact he abandoned it was pretty unprofessional though I can forgive him if he really was important to The Venture Bros.

Adrienne Jenkins : Err... so what’s your point? What’s your ideal endgame? What do you want *done*? And who would benefit from that change? Who would suffer? Supposing any of these anonymous claims are true, which, being anonymous, anyone should take with an enormous grain of salt, what do you want? What does your source want? I’ve observed the animation industry in North America for a long time (since 1995 at least), and I would say that overall, the industry is better now than its ever been. Prior to very recently, most animators (even the ones who’s ideas made millions of dollars for someone else) labored in relative anonymity. And most of the work was uninspired. The great TV cartoons of the past that we remember often came in spite of, not because of tight control and creative meddling by the networks and the FCC. You may not agree with the worldview of some popular creators, but do you really believe most networks/platforms greenlight series based on how “gay” or “progressive” they are? And that they don’t hesitate to pull shows that don’t make money—especially since the real money often lies in toys/merch? A lot of this report reads like a tabloid. It comes across as mean and bitter, and also assumes that the industry was somehow better at any point in the past (it was not) or was any easier to get into in the past with sheer hard work/determination (it most certainly was not!). It’s easier now than ever for an unconnected “nobody” to make a name for themselves. So many more platforms and funding options than 15 years ago. In terms of content, a creator having an opinion or worldview does not equal an Agenda. Everyone has a worldview and an opinion; I believe if you don’t have one, you shouldn’t talk. Most people aren’t Seinfeld. It’s hard to write year after year about nothing—even a silly comedy. Fund and promote projects that align more closely with your values. There’s plenty of room for Conservative content. Smearing the reputations of other people without proof (in an attempt to get them fired?) does little but spread misinformation and negativity. But, judging from your channel, that seems to be what you’re about, so 🤷‍♀️

Kela : Honestly, his disrespectful language and biases just stop me from considering his point. I can't take somone's reasoning seriously if they are just disrespectfully atacking everything they dislike every 2 minutes instead of making their point. I find it deeply disturbing the way he uses this "facts" as an excuse to let his homophobia, misogyny and general biases run wild. Honestly, people sleeping around or wanting to include something they care about in the show they work is okay and kinda normal. Hiring just the people you sleep with or just your friends isn't okay, but hiring someone you know because they would be good at the job and they are qualified isn't bad.

Katie Frank : After watching the entire video it seems to me that this dude has serious issues against women (and gays), and a major grudge about being fired (and not getting laid while everyone else was); just another bitter, petty incel who invents high school-ish drama to make up for their obvious lack of talent.

Dante : Plot twist: the person who contacted EZ is Rebecca Sugar.

Patrick Blanchette : Being an aspiring creator myself. I find it hard to believe that a creator would sleep in their office while working on their passion project. This sound like nothing more than slander.

DTH -Incorproductions : Well most of this sounds like fake news....

Nom du Clavier : Having same-sex relationships isn't an agenda. Or any more sexual than any other relationship. Also: women are rumoured to have 'slept their way to the top' all the time, and white men are not likely to feel persecuted than others, so they're not exactly objective.

Quixotic_Dragon : haha, I had a good chuckle at the sarcasm of the end joke. but the rest of the video was pretty hard to sit through because you forgot the #1 rule of writing an argument: never offend the audience you're trying to pull over to your side while I know this is just a report (albeit with minimal supporting evidence), it still seems like you're trying to make a case here. sprinkling in jokes about how women shouldn't be in the industry or sugar's gender won't help your case at all, even if it's just your video style. the instant you offend someone they won't be joining your side. sometimes a fact is rough and hard to swallow, yes, but joking about these things will just rub people the wrong way and certainly won't help. edit: oop, should'a realized he's likely troll and probably looking to trigger people instead of making an argument r/woooosh

OKJ : Funny how the creators of Teen Titans Go!, possibly the most generally hated western cartoon, are seemingly completely innocent, while the creators of such "beloved" cartoons are outed as sexual predators and the like.

Velisa : Everyone: "tHiS iS pEtTy aNd fAke." Shit i didnt realize how negative everyones comments are for literally a video that says, "yo this literally could be lies okay you dont have to believe me."

Marbles471 : Yeah. I guarantee that all of this is, at minimum, 75% nonsense. And the remaining 25% is probably presented in a laughably misleading and disingenuously salacious light.

Jared Berlin : Your argument against the disorder and nepotistic tendencies of the artists and network are completely undermined by your blatant discomfort and personal rhetoric against anything homosexual or "agenda/representation based creativity." To hire off of social media outlets is perfectly fine, many companies do this as this is how you add new talent in an ever-changing industry..... although some screening/supervising procedures for the sake of the continuity of the story would be preferable I personally have no qualms in terms of what representation comes out at the end. representation happens. Artists will be artists. People want to fill the world with what they feel relatable with. If u don't feel the same you don't have to watch. What you value does exist and is out there, maybe not on cartoon network, but I'm sure it does. And! if doesn't, i suggest you begin to work on that, although be warned. some youtuber may make a video about your values and use their rhetoric to claim how awful you are just as you have done now. The whole Lets point at (blank) group that feels marginalized action your propagating is a cycle. The artist responds to this pointing out this action then further creates the content u already are pointing fingers at in the first place. Why pursue a dialogue based on the need to disavow/speak discontent with people desiring to identify by gender/sexual affiliation factors, which btw I'm not a fan of, but it's their choice to find themselves in their own way. Having a problem with it like this and creating basically "hate art" to create some weird sense of balance of values or whatever your trying to accomplish.... is actually hurting your cause. Your only going to make more people feel marginalized and double down with the need for representation. This results in further seeking a community and forms of expression within only their designated forms of artistic representation. hence...how this discussion/video probably began. ...Entitlement, representation, what are "real values are." seeing in colors and genders... You're the problem mate. Acceptance of others and a refocus of offense to the actual problems in the hiring procedures, business models, manipulation of assets and an unfocused continuity based on unclear values is the discussion it seems your trying to have....but instead you just have hate speech. Learn to have the honest discussion. If values persist then there are people out there who identify with it and buy it. that's how capitalism works.

Fleabitten : Interviewee: "the showrunners spread rumours about me" *video proceeds to spew 30 minutes of anonymous hearsay* ok

Bob MiLaplace : SO that is why American animation seemed to be have lost overarching plots. I felt that anime tended to be more by the numbers but told a story. I thought after the 90's they stopped hiring authors and just randomly created episodes without an plot behind it. Like Iyashikei written by nihilists and misantropes. Ive heard most anime began as manga/doujin so most of the characters, plotlines where already there. Its like American animation has become Anime's retarded austistic brother.

lakamokolaka : Blacklisted yet doesn't want thier voice disclosed? I don't believe that if they already been blacklisted because they litterally will never get hired again anyway what would they have to lose if this was true? Even if this person is real (going off what you claim) you ever figured they might have been blacklisted for an actual behavioral issue? How do we know they weren't the one poisoning the waterhole? I say this because they said a lot of sex related stuff about four entirely different show departments they somehow managed to work in. I know staff are recycled, but that sounds suspicious to me how that time table works. They worked on adventure time, star, gravity falls, and steven universe all around the same time yet they are different companies sounds like bullshit already. Why don't they show thier work schedule or something to validate these claims? Because I don't know of any departments that switch around that much to work somehow close to four show creators around the exact same time. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out they were the one sleeping around and did that to fuck over the guy they slept with because they didn't want to dump thier partner or wanted to so they could silence them. Or you know cause drama to start a shit fight because they just don't like the people they work with. Like if alex really did get into trouble for shitting in his office how did they find out? They would be some form of warning letter they must have given alex for an act like that due to it is a violation of many work place policies. I would demand evidence because they might be just bullshitting you because blacklisting isn't done by the creator of any show but the company so that means theyhad proof they were ethier doing bad performance wise or you know had behavioral issues.

Yasmina El : I mean no offense to anyone im not an animator but I like both AT and SU. They're really cool. Also I don't understand when he said "they don't want to admit that hiring women-i mean hiring sugar, is a mistake." Uuuhhh Okay man just cause you can't get the job isn't because women have stole it from you. Pathetic

IceKat9494 : The source cited is an imaginary person's ass


wales doesnt suck : Rebecca Sugars face actually pisses me off

waywardchicle : this would been a good video if you just admitted this is your opinion instead of hiding behind a supposed source. even if agree in general in many of the point you made I can't help but dislike how you choose to present all the points. if this source is true, you ruined your delivery completely, you sounded really off and it just makes this video seems like you want to validate your opinions with a false source, it just makes you look cowardly and afraid of the backlash this video might bring...

Jonborg123 : Does anyone remember kids next door

Aydan Draws : Aren't you talking about Luke Weber? Luke Weber was (allegedly) "blacklisted" from the animation industry, because he's a pain in the ass to work with plus threatened to assault a woman. Plus he was creepy af to Alex Hirsch girl friend. Which is probs why this whole thing sounds like a revenge fantasy against Alex

Madison Taylor : Assuming any of this is true, its no wonder this kind of attitude from your "source" got them blacklisted. Team dynamic is arguably more important than any one individuals raw talent in animation studios, theres a reason its a pipeline, so yes, people will hire their buddies, because they know they get along. Second, your homophobia and sexism doesnt really.. lend any credentials to an unbiased information leak here. Third, theres nothing really wrong with being scouted from your social media, I was brought onto a startup game studio because of my social media, I have no formal art training, and in this day and age you dont really need a college education to be good at art, theres enough resources online to learn from. And of course, last but not least, theres not a single artist that has worked across all those shows. So your source is bs or lying to you. Take like 15 minutes to fact check.

Pajamapants Jack : Wow they even called it Steven Bomb like yeah your show should have bombed

Big Body : I feel bad for the people who believe this is fact

Rainos62 : 1. your source is blacklisted and is not willing to reveal themselves is sketchy because if your blacklisted, it means you can NEVER work in that industry again and it makes it harder to believe by itself 2. that person may have been blacklisted for a reason and may be making stuff up for revenge. 3. If it was as chaotic as you make it sound the show would not even be able to function let alone produce an episode in a timely manner and adventure time had a very timely schedule. 4. This feels more like gossip from 4chan than real truths

Origami Tesseract : 10:10 & 23:42 Gives some strong hints of like this 50's style belief system of woman not belonging in cartoon production. *Can you elaborate more on this position. To make it more clear. For transparency sake.* Also I am not going to hunt down and bookmark all the conditations of negative and even sexual nature of adding gay characters to cartoons. Because it is so abundant and I have a feeling you probably hold that on your sleeve. *Can you express why you feel gay characters shouldn't be in cartoons. Even if what they do is not even sexual at any nature. Also can you point out a single instants of what sign of affection that gay characters do that heterosexual characters hadn't?* Also call me sceptical on your source. But I just find it very fortunate for you that you found a blacklisted past employee to confirm all you said before and reconfirm your believes. Also since you say "I will not bore you with other material that may not be relevant (until I point it out later) but here is some side irrelevant stuff!" Especailly since you added a way out for yourself by saying "Idk if it is true or not." Also I do question what your source has to lose if already blacklist. Also why disclose it to you, except... You know, news outlits. To blow it up and shine brighter light to the situation. If he/she wants it known why you? *I would not ask you to disclose your source. I understand if true, that you own them that. But I would like you to own up to your claims by stamping your actual face to it.(do not even have to add your name.) To add any sort of accountability to your claims. Also let's say your source was proven wrong, would you hold them accountable and clear your own name?*

Anima : Wait is this a secret E;R channel?

TheAutistWhisperer : Let me guess, was he blacklisted for having the "wrong opinion"?