HyperNormalisation and Gaming

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Horricule : Man, you've had some interesting life experiences. Great editing by the way.

Umbra : Can you imagine the issues that the 10 year olds who gamble on crates in cod, overwatch and csgo will have when they're grown up?

Neiva : People are so unaware about all the data mining that goes on, down to the OS level (windows 10) and they just don't care... It's sad to see, and more and more companies are getting on it... Literally everything is a botnet... Heck, even Nvidia Drivers now have telemetry... WTF It's funny, look up "instagram pranks" or whatever, a friend showed me... Basically "nearby" users were flagged on a map and the guy would walk up to them randomly, call their name and any other information they could find on Facebook / Instagram etc... They were completely blown away by this and some even said they were going to crack down on their "privacy" settings...

Volcanus : My god.. Watching this, after bethesdas 'creation club'... I cant believe some people are actually defending that.

Nick Lanni : Hold up. You were fed up with being a pointless cog in the machine stripped of all individuality serving a greater body of morally bankrupt intentions, so your solution was to leave and go become a pointless cog in the machine stripped of all individuality serving a greater body of morally bankrupt intentions?

Jeremiah S : Not sure how your channel came to be in my recommended feed, but this is something I needed to hear. I have come to understand how complicit I've been, in an innumerable amount of happenings. Things I should care about given what I know, but I do nothing, say nothing, and feel no urge to make myself do something. This apathy is worse when you're conscious of it, watching things play out in 3rd person.. Then you just shut the doors when you're bored of the show. It's a lack of perceived weight, the thought that these important happenings wont effect me.. I have nothing to gain by partaking, I tell myself that while knowing I only stand to benefit. We all stand to benefit when we fight for what we want, it enriches our being.. Ignoring that only makes you so much less than what you can become. I've become complicit in myself and yeah.. It doesn't feel good, nor do I know what paths I can take to break free of this ugly existence. Because I do see it as quite detestable, I can make no excuses for it, but it's me. Loved the video man, I can say with confidence that you have found something you can be proud of. The sheer level of detail you put into this, was very inspirational. My boss recently offered to help me get a promotion at work and I couldn't give him a straight answer. I don't want it, I hate this job, it's so mundane, and yet I'm still there, making no attempt to propell myself away. Sigh.. I have no idea what I'd do, like the structure of this comment my head is a mess. Anyway in closing, I hope to listen to another one of your videos and be inspired to gush the nothings of my mind again.

EjectorSeat : This is interesting. But it isn't what Adam Curtis means by hypernormalisation. Hypernormalisation was a state of mind used initially to describe the 1980s USSR, where politicians were lying and had no power, the people knew it, and, importantly, the politicians knew that the people knew it. Because there was no imaginable replacement for a decrepit system that no longer worked, everybody just went along with the charade in the full knowledge that it was bullshit. Hence, it was "hypernormal" - everybody acted normally, but nothing worked. I think what you're talking about here is more like gaslighting or manufacturing consent - or maybe even shock doctrine or cult initiations.

predalienmack : Capitalism and the greed it rewards is the primary source of virtually every issue you talked about in this video, from the problems with microtransactions in the gaming industry to invasive advertising practices on social media to the demonization of whistle blowers by media outlets and the state. The ruling class (capitalists) wish nothing more than to stay in their positions of power and to further increase their hold on that power, which means they will parasitically drain the resources of the majority of people as much as they can without causing significant backlash, while simultaneously making any sort of backlash more and more difficult to organize on a large scale through constant sensationalism and distractions to keep people docile and obedient to the system and its rulers. The future is looking pretty bleak, especially considering how technological innovation has only deepened the capitalists' control over our lives.

FiestaVan : Christians who value charity and vote for the removal of the welfare state are remaining philosophically consistent in their views. Welfare is not charity, its the redistribution of wealth at gunpoint. come on man.

chilldude30 : The irony is that this video got on my recommendations list, and so I saw it, because I like these kind of editorial gaming videos and also HyperNormalisation and Adam Curtis and the algorithms presumably put these together and showed me this. I watched the whole video and found it very interesting, particularly the beginning story about being in the army.

CitizenLach : I have a friend who wastes so much money on in game content for games he doesn't even like in the first place. Like if he spends enough money on it, it will become the game it was hyped up to be. Pointing out the fact that he was scammed only makes him mad at me, rather than at the people who made the game this way. It's some kind of brainwashing, there is no reversing this trend I fear.

CrabTastingMan : 22:20 Paying for a chance to win something virtually unobtainable through normal means? How is this news? From my experience this shit was normal in places like Japan since the 80s. The reason they got this so early was because Japanese are people living in a "democracy" who are the most fearful of standing out or speaking out. They lived through 800 years of shogunate military dictatorship where disagreements were settled with bloodshed glorified as dueling, and people kept in line by making individuals' mistakes accountable by their family. Even the most self-sacrificing person succumbs if their family is held at swordpoint. *This is the ORIGIN OF THE HONORABRU stereotype of Japs.* In the 20th century they were ruled by imperialists and military who were so powerful they could ignore the emperor they were toting to derive some divine right for the military to rule Japan, and draft any dissidents and send them to die in the bloodier campaigns (Shinmyo almost being sent to die in the Pacific Campaign when he wrote in a newspaper in 1944 that civilians "Cannot fight [Americans] with mere Bamboo Spears [as the Jap Army forced them to]" Incident comes to mind). The last chance they had to break out of this tendency to keep their heads down was in the 60s-70s when activists were speaking out against so-called "democrats" who were rich people who gained power during WW2 through warmongering, and passing their political positions to their sons. They were quelled with violent policing and smear-tactics of focusing media attention to the most violent radicals among the group and portraying all the activists to be just as violent (Asama Lodge Incident). Defeated, the intellectuals went into public media as a last effort to awaken the people, *which is why you see anime with anti-militarism/corruption/totalitarianism by animators* like Miyazaki, Tomino (Gundam), Oshii (Jin-roh). Not like the 90s where everything become commercial (mainstream robot anime geared to selling toys, magic girl anime made to sell magic wands), and 2010s where we see more rightwing propaganda anime.

TTuoTT : Do you get the irony of you talking first in such seemingly authentic compassion and clarity about fundamental perceptions of the individual beeing at the mercy of socio-political power strucutres and than doing nothing much more than using the conclusions to explain why the entertainment industry is not fitting your needs?

Jemolk : Thanks for this wake-up call. So many people have gotten increasingly apathetic, or even started to defend the practices that serve only to screw them over. I still fight, though. When it became too much to sort out the information dumps and hype trains prior to AAA releases, I stopped buying AAA games. The more normalized DRM becomes, the more inclined I am to only ever buy games that do not have it. Games with microtransactions are things that I still fight, and to this day I do not have a Facebook account nor Twitter. I use the browser extension NoScript to prevent data collection, and soon enough I aim to use a VPN to connect to the internet at all. I have an adblocker basically permanently in place, though I will occasionally turn in off for certain sites. A handfull have tried to force me to allow ads by creating pupups that prevent me from dealing with the site if they detect an adblocker; in response, I kill scripts from the site rather than disable the adblocker. I'm still hoping to be able to program an addon that allows me to kill certain script functions globally, specifically tracking and anything that makes a sound or moves without my express approval. I use DuckDuckGo as my search engine instead of Google, and downloaded Firefox on my phone specifically to not have to use Chrome. I've killed numerous means of tracking me through my browser, and have as thoroughly as possible scrubbed my real identity from association with this online pseudonym. It's a fight many have given up willingly long ago, but I still fight. I will give up niether liberty nor privacy without a struggle.

Christos Karsanidis : HyperNormalisation = the boiling frog experiment, in other words. I am interested to know about the gamers that care about Homo Ludens [before Hideo Kojima made it famous] more than anything. This type of gamer genuinely, i believe, has no interest in buying all that bullshit but also feels the demise in gaming industry. The fall in quality and depth that only a handful of games each year deliver now. I hope, that is. Games are made now centered for the "whales" and because they are appealing and shiny, the "whales" started creating arguments about them. Weak and stupid but nevertheless. They are arguments for them, not for the opposition. "I am right, i deserve more, i am entitled to everything" and so on. There's almost nothing that hasn't been already said or cannot been found in a book somewhere, a study or an essay. Though, we need someone to re-explain things in a more simply way so we, the usual people, understand the underlying hypocrisy and pure greed of the industry.

MF Whom ? : More people should watch Hypernormalization.

Steve Gais : Fantastic video, its amazing to hear from someone who was a skeptic, had that removed, then had to be a born again skeptic. The real question is, how do we encourage the same transformation in others.

Relmfig : this is a REALLY cool video. the way you can move so well between personal stories, world issues and the games industry is really captivating. A+ content, definitely subbing.

ned flanders : thanks for helping bring people out of ignorance.

RegicideKo9 : quick tid bit, that saying "the poor get poorer while the rich get richer" isn't true. The poor are just getting richer at an INCREDIBLY slower rate than the rich, but they are making more nonetheless. Interesting video though.

Raitis : Amazing. I am sick and tired of echo chambers, I am sick and tired of the way politics is being handled through emotions, I am sick and tired of Monalisa games being split up in to chunks and people not paying enough attention to being swindled out of an extra 20$, just because they can spare that much for that extra content. But fuck man, what is a simple 9-5 guy supposed to do? Raise awareness? I try to, just enough so I don't stress about it. Petition? Petition against who? For what? For whom? At the end of the day, everyone is out trying to make a profit and if that means cutting quality then they'll do it. Establish a reliable brand > Drain all the money out over the course of 10 years The result? Game devs with experience under their belt, CEO's and investors with great millions in the bank, other game companies get to say "Well those before us did it, we're just following suit" for DLC's and what not. Doom and gloom.

Nick MaGrick : I would NOT survive in the army. at all. I dont listen to authority well. I imagine id be dead or get a dishonorable discharge, rather quickly.

E7san : Thanks for the video. It came at the right time. I'm from Egypt and the scale of hypernormalisation we've been subjected to the past few years is just staggering. I keep swinging between hope and despair, but whatever state I'm in I keep telling myself that it's still better to say what I think is right. When I'm hopeful I do it because i think it boosts the morale of those who agree with me and may change the minds of those who don't, and when I'm desperate I still do it because I don't want to be a willing participant in a world were all of this shit is normal. I hope you get more subs. The only way out of this is if we spread our opposition to the myopic greedy assholes trying to ruin it for everyone else.

Михаил Найденов : Nice vid, however. Be careful with documentaries, both "triple A" and "indie". I am yet to encounter a doc which is not also a propaganda of some sort and/or at some level. Very often b/w facts there are mainly opinions presented as facts. Take for example the synopsis of HN: "Adam Curtis explains how, at a time of confusing and inexplicable world events, politicians and the people they represent have retreated in to a damaging over-simplified version of what is happening." This looks like some "well established facts", but it is 100% speculation if you break it down. Any word of it. Second. If someone is trying to make you feel in some way, he is either trying to manipulate you or entertain you or both; almost by definition.

Harrus : so deep I wish I could unwatch it, like really it was really bad.

Maximilliongalactica : Oh man. I would recommend the TV-series Black Mirror, especially the episode Fifteen million Merits. It challenges a lot of how I view Hypernormalisation.

Empee arr : capitalism is the problem.

Notthedroids Yourelookingfor : The way you make your points turns disagreeing with you into an opportunity to learn and challenge oneself. Thanks for your time and effort.

migkillerphantom : >has understood how slow normalization works >doesn't see how denying reality on a fundamental level has been normalized through the lens of "equality" it's amazing, it really is

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association : You know you're doing something right when all the criticism against you is strawmaning XD

vin 950 : Crazy that we would vote for those who get rid of welfare programs? I suppose in your mind people get rid of welfare programs because they hate the idea of others getting help right? Please look up the arguments against welfare before taking the easy way out and pretending that those who oppose welfare are merely doing so out of greed. There are a lot of good arguments for why the welfare state does not help those it is supposed to. There is nothing quite so dangerous as someone who claims they know best to help you, and won't take no for an answer. Which is exactly what the government does. The very same reason that makes me wary of the government's intrusion into the data of private citizens makes me wary of their repeated attempts to redistribute money. If you really are interested in knowing more about the world, I hope you look up the argument against the welfare state instead of pretending that conservatives are just evil money grubbers out to deny people things. Its always easy to defeat the weakest argument of the opposing side, but it is always much more useful to refute their strongest one.

Astray & Wandering : I really feel like you missed the point of Curtis' Documentary. Conflating a well precisely defined phenomena "Hypernormalisation" with companies not been honest. Curtis says Hypernormalisation is the process whereby people lose complete confidence in politicians, and the truth, so that they get detached from the world. You basically seem to think it's when game companies try to rip you off. - They've been doing that since forever mate.

yhwh88 : I like how your story about rejecting groupthink led you to unquestioningly adopt communist dogma. Cool story bro.

Benschachar : "That the rich are allowed to get richer while the poor become poorer." That is an insipid cliché. "Christians who believed in charity would vote for those who vow to get rid of welfare programs." Welfare isn't charity it's compulsory and doesn't help. "That we would live in places where smog hangs over our heads and chokes us in our sleep and deny that pollution is a problem we should curb." As far as I can tell that is a China thing.

BP : Too much overdramatic BS. Stick to the game talk. The first 13 minutes could have been done in a paragraph.

daycare : Taxation is theft.

Dmitriy Shmanko : Call your channel "Too deep gamer rants"

pete cruickshank : I boycott all these pay to win games. I advice everyone else to do the same. The consumer has the power, use it.

Mohannad Alrashed : I love your work

Andrés Rafael Valle : Good Lord man I'd just like to give you some props, this one of the best videos I've ever seen on youtube! The topic itself is fascinating and bites directly at, not just gaming, but the human condition. To think I was watching dank memes two clicks earlier! Top stuff mate, don't stop

Lucky Chops : I gave up on video games a while ago for many of the reasons mentioned. I was basically forced by a job to have a Facebook account, but can not remember the last time I went on it for many of these reasons. I try to focus more on reading and listening to professors on YouTube than on CNN or newspapers for many of these reasons. All of that said, such things so permeate our society that on many levels I find it difficult to relate with my coworkers and old friends, and still feel I am being indoctrinated on many levels by exposure to many of the things mentioned here.

Todd Ellis : Goddamn, I feel like I just watched the Zeitgeist film of gaming. Great vid man.

Fürchtegott Gellert : When you know about the lights bouncing, then you too have to know why solar panels can not be a solution, since they end the bounce, transform the energy till it gets transformed back into basically heat, for example in a solar powered pc. No, I don't favor any side of the debate, just point out, both have their fair share of fools.

richie4956 : hey man, just subscribed tonight because I love your vids and want more shit like this on my youtube feed, you are doing the work I need to see in gaming media. Another side note: you score your videos with amazing music. I feel there is much more for you to have said in this video and I only criticize because I value your opinion. I hope to see much more of this type of analytical work of yours in the future! You, unlike most YouTubers, actually got me thinking.

IceJT15 : The thing that is hypersensationalist about day one dlc and pre order dlc is that it's completely ignorant of how games are made and how much time and effort it takes to make them. Day one and preorder dlc is not happening to test how much they can fleece the consumer, rather it's a way to cram more content into a game in a market that doesn't respond well to the price increases that require that extra commitment. "But Ice, that's stupid, why don't they just not make that content then!?" Because dear reader; game development teams are not linear pipelines that have content being finished the moment the game is bug tested and ready to launch, the 3d modellers are the first to be finished their contribution to the game, so having them work on other assets that they can then sell as dlc that requires a lesser contribution from other parts of the art/design team only makes sense. They can't have the modellers sitting on their asses for months on a payroll and adding that stuff in for free doesn't make sense either because it's not worth that much. So really it's this simple: You have to pay for more content, it's that simple, you pay for it in some way or otherwise it simply isn't made. Game Companies have actually some of the fairest implementation in that it's entirely opt-in.

RezaQin : Everyone walks a different path but there are certain things I simply cannot believe. One is the leftist religion of climate change which was global warming, then it was climate change then climate disruption. It is ultimately a massive scam to make people poorer while the rich (see democrats and leftists) trade "carbon credits" and the US gets poorer. Paying more taxes will not cool the Earth and why would we want to do that? The Earth has went through periods of cooling and warming so why should I pay more taxes and change my life style while China pumps out pure poison into their atmosphere every day? You seem like a cool guy and I'm glad you found your way but you have total control of your life. People choose to play these terrible mobile games, to buy the day one DLC, and generally do stupid things. People will make choices whether or not they are good.

Azronger : Apathy is death. Brilliant video, btw. Subscribed.

wupeide : So much BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A moment's thought will let any thinking person see through this propaganda.

Fascist Wolfe : This is dumb.

Dener Witt : it would be good if you pointed out what the video is really about in the first few minutes. Im half way through and this is all so convoluted and I still dont know where you are going with this. Present your point faster to get people's attention better.