Why Christian Movies are BAD | The Problem with Christian Media - Part 2

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Sean Paul Murphy : As the screenwriter of a number of PureFlix films, I could hardly agree more with your perspective. I grew up watching indie films of the 80s and 90s, those filmmakers managed to make art with small budgets because they had a passion for the medium. It's not the budgets. It is a disregard for the art of filmmaking. And faith films will not get better until the audience demands something better, but they tend to evaluate films solely on the message itself. As for the counterproductive hatred of atheists and other non-believers, I tried to buck that trend. In Hidden Secrets, the first film produced by PureFlix (but its second release), my co-writer and I sought to create a fuller, more sympathetic portrayal, and, if the following review is any indication, we succeeded: "But don't dismiss Hidden Secrets as The Big Chill rewritten from a Christian perspective. It has the nerve to make one of its most appealing characters, a stem-cell researcher played by John Schneider, an atheist and the least appealing a scripture-spouting hypocrite. While its proscriptive tendencies might not sit well with some moviegoers, it does strive to distinguish between sinner and sin. Even the death merchant and the homosexual - played by Arkansan Corin Nemec - are worthy of love and respect; it's their actions that God despises." Nowadays, however, the audience reward films that fight the Culture War for them. It is easier to generate anger than compassion. I have no interest in that. As for the muddled purpose of Christian films, I think you will appreciate my recent blog: http://seanpaulmurphyville.blogspot.com/2017/09/building-faith-based-film-ghetto.html

SerMortzio : It's genuinely pleasant to see a Christian actually noticing that these films are blatant propaganda and the portrayal of atheists is ridiculous. Good video :)

Eagle J. : As an intellectual, the best Christian movies are the Veggie Tales movies.

Bombalurina : Christian films are like porn. Bad acting, poorly shot, and shouoldn't be shown to children.

Daniel Skupien : The current Christian/Evangelical world is shallow and has been for some time now, and when I say shallow, I mean shallow in theology, doctrine, conduct, preaching, and etc. Why? Well, much has to do with what has been done in the past, and the end result is that the overwhelming majority of what calls itself 'Christian', isn't. We have tons of nominal churches filled with nominal Christians, when you understand that, your confusion should be greatly lessened. If someone says they're a Christian, learn to challenge them on that, or just simply watch and listen, as in, be attentive, ask the right questions, watch their behavior, reactions, but most importantly, their mouths! James 1:26 "If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless." It's a tragedy that the Bible speaks and explains so much on the things that most non-Christians take issue with regarding Christians and Christianity, but won't ever have the answers because the pretend Christians (which is the majority) have put them off Christianity in such a way that they wouldn't bother investigating the claims of Christianity. It's a genius tactic by Satan; create so much confusion through heretical teaching, which leads to countless false professions/Christians, which ends up causing extreme misleading/misunderstandings about Christianity/The Bible, which leads to countless numbers of people to ignore it altogether. What we have today is a lot like a person who would say they love racing, they love going fast, they love the thrill, the smell, the look, the feel of it all, but they actually hate cars and don't know a thing about them. Many self-deceived people out there love their religious activity, the coziness/comfort of sentimental, emotional, non-confronting preaching, which sadly leads to self-deception in such a way so that they don't understand that they themselves hate the God they say they worship, because they do not truly submit to Him in thought, attitude, and deed. There is a lot that could be said about all this.

Sam Smigla : I couldn't disagree more Veggie Tales is a cinematic masterpiece.

Moving Parts Gaming : I clicked on this expecting a brutal take down of Christian movies. I was pleasantly surprised by tone and view of the situation.

DelNiceBeto : art lets you interpret it yourself propaganda tells you what to think and that you're evil if you don't agree

Aria Clements : I am a progressive atheist, though grew up as an extreme Christian, basically a prototype of today's Tea Partiers. So I've been on both ends of this. The lack of compassion from Christians is what ultimately drove me away from religion and convinced me there is no such thing as god. When Christians start seeing your life as a comedy because everything that can go wrong will go wrong, and I'm talking everything from losing organs to witnessing my father's suicide to homelessness, and they think it's amusing to see someone they compare to Job, it's hard to find compassion in anyone. Christmas Day in 2005 is the day I left it all. I was homeless (thanks to an ex who screwed me over), and collapsed on the group in Union Square when going to the big Christmas tree where people were gathered. On one side was the tree, and on the other, a menorah (the last day of Hanukkah was Christmas that year), and both easily had over a hundred people. I started crying because I was so tired and hungry. When the sermons on both sides were over, I desperately hoped someone would at least say hello in passing. Instead, every single person who walked past me walked far around me, obviously intentionally trying to ignore me. On Christmas/Hanukkah, not a single one of them even said hello or anything, and that was when I knew it was all a lie. If there was a god, one of those hundreds of people would have acknowledged me with a simple greeting. Now, I so often still see Christians acting in the most appalling ways, supporting a president who cheats, lies, steals, throws people under the bus, cages immigrant children whose families are trying to escape violence... I see Christians supporting the caging of those refugees, without noticing the irony in what they're doing. They'd rip Jesus from his mother's arms, toss him in a cage with an aluminium sheet as a blanket, deport his parents, then DNA test him when a judge orders the return of the kids, DNA testing that has to be done because the government those Christians support didn't bother seeing track of which kid goes to which adult, and that government is still talking about how the government *cares* about the kids and wants to make sure the parents are *suitable*, because sleeping on concrete is how the government shows "love." I see Christians support this because "if they didn't want to be treated that way, they shouldn't have come here illegally," as if those people had a choice other than to wait for murder. I see Christians calling cops on people for being black, and not bothering to try to excuse themselves. I see Christians fight against universal healthcare so that every sick person can see a doctor instead of dying. I see Christians support the cruelest things, than claim that atheists support gangs by supporting refugees, and claiming that we are bleeding-hearts for wanting LGBT people to be allowed to have the same rights (which those Christians call "special privileges") as the rest of us, and saying you shouldn't get to see a doctor if you can't pay. I'm not saying every Christian is like that (I have such high respect for the religious leaders who have been arrested for protesting against inhumane treatment of immigrants, and I adore the current pope for his attempts to change the Catholic Church to one of acceptance, and understand why he has to do it slowly and defend him for it), but it's hard to deny that a HUGE chunk are, and they support Trump, and they are just cruel. I see atheists heading up hunger strikes to protest the inhumane treatment of immigrants, fighting for health care access, for better schools. I see atheists being more Christ-like than self-proclaimed followers of Christ, who are so often anything but. So when movies like these come out, we atheists don't sit there feeling insulted. We laugh at the characters who are supposed to be the "good guys" because they are just so stupid. These movies are an insult to Christians, and we atheists find that to be hilarious. These movies backfire. They preach to the choir and try to reinforce the idiocy of people who supposedly persecute them. Uh huh...Christians are reeeeaaally being persecuted in a country where Christian faith is a legit legal excuse from the law now, and where laws are being written to align with Christianity, and where non-white, non-Christian, non-cis-hetero, non-male people are at risk of losing rights int he very near future. These movies make Christians look like a bunch of snowflake babies who are so insecure that they have to make and watch movies as pathetic as these to make themselves feel better. These movies backfire and make all Christians look stupid. The filmmakers? It's not about the message. It's about the money. They pocket those tens of millions in profits instead of investing in better movies, or in setting up free screenings so poor people and those who might otherwise pass up seeing it (how many atheists want to pay to watch movies that try to insult us?) can see it and maybe be moved. It's like that episode of South Park where Eric Cartman starts a music band called Faith+1 and changes the words "babe" and "girl" in love songs to "Jesus" and "god," which results in some blow-job-sounding lyrics, and he shows Christians to be sheep who will pay money for anything they think is about god, no matter how bad it is. These movies prove him right. Point to South Park.

Logoncal : My favourite Christian movie is Life of Brian AAAAALWAYS LOOK THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE DOO DOO DOO DO

Jxswager 21 : What about the prince of Egypt that was an amazing movie

Roll Like A Buffalo O_O : The only good Christian movies to me are Prince of Egypt and Joseph, King of Dreams. Thats it.

Jennifer Eidson : If i can add that in God's Not Dead, they show the athiest as someone who believes in the christian god enough to think god is dead. When actually athiest have an absence of belief in the existance of a god or gods/goddesses.

Dan Mqng : Every once and a while YouTube's recommended gets it right

Coast Guard Chris : I love that at 13:28 in the bottom left her "God is Good" sign is upside down, as is the "Love" sign in the middle. How was that not caught during production?!

Darth Drake : What about Christian anime like Bible Black?

chrisw443 : Great video, from an atheist, thanks for not hating me, I take pride in making sure everyone can practice whatever religion they want. :)

bronze katana cowboy : As a Christian, I must say these movies appall me. They misrepresent the faith. For instance, Gods not dead, the kid wants to and is "called" to defend God. Correct me if I am wrong, while we are called to defend our faith if asked we are told not to defend God. I mean it is a silly notion. The faith of a human being is weak and therefore it makes sense that you would defend it. The God of the Universe? He created the "attacker" and you. He would need our help why exactly?

bunnyfreakz : Nacho Libre literally the best Christian movie.

Jean Luc : Passion of the Christ, Hacksaw Ridge, The Promise are the good newish ones

VU IBG : How dare you suggest a movie based on god's word is not perfect? Demons & atheists are possessing innocent people & making them give bad reviews on Rotten Tomatoes!!!!!!1111! LOL, or so I'm told...

Pranav Dhilip : "I would like to start off by establishing that film...is an art form." *cuts to Interstellar. Well played, sir. Well played. *Cue admiring applause

Lulaire Noroub : Christian movies are bad because they're made by and for people who's theological understanding of their own beliefs is completely empty. They are morally bankrupt because they're made from the perspective of a morally bankrupt system.

ErrorErrorino Kripperino : Even as a Catholic I accept that Christian movies are bad.

Ayenate' Lawson : So very eloquent. I am agnostic. I do not know if there is a God. I just know that I don't want to associate with most Christians or with the bible. Christian's can be very cruel or immoral, and justify their hate with holier-than-thou self-righteousness and the contradiction-riddled Bible.

Jon Raquet : I used to be a christian, and it was people like the ones booing at the newsboys concert that ultimately ended being the nail in the coffin of my belief in god. I wish more christians shared your sentiments.

SpringInFialta : Jesus is the Light, but most Christian movies can't even get the lighting right.

Caleb Brano : That was really eye opening. I am very fortunate to be able to see these things, they help me realize things from a different perspective. It helps me and possibly others grow and mature.

Titus : Just saw the movie Second Glance, It was so bad, I converted Praise Cthulhu

Kaila Young : 12:57 Whoa. What an eye-opening notion. I never booed at the atheist professor but I remember going to Winter Jam once and people were very vocal about their dislike for the character. I can totally see how an unbeliever would feel attacked by this behavior. I definitely would. What does the way we portray/see atheists say about us and who we are? Jesus told us to love. This kind of behavior just misrepresents everything Christians are supposed to embody.

Kibure : I'm an atheist, but even I can't help but feel nostalgic for the Veggie Tales movies... They were just... fun to watch.

TurtleKing777 : Bruce Almighty proves that you can make good Christian movies. That aren’t extremely boring, and still get the message across love God and love and the stress of them are really lives and the power he has in those lives

Morshu McPherson : But Veggietales is Christian and it's still good! And it even had movies!

Tech Guy17 : I love the objective approach you had with both this and Christian music. We do have allot to work on and have a heart of humanity for those who are different from us and we might have a better job winning them over than this vitriolic hate that you are talking about on the internet and in society

Pam Wonderful : Hey bro, I'm completely non religious/spiritual in every way imaginable but wanted to say I found this very insightful. I have respect for any person who can put aside bias to critique art for it's artistic value. Great video, keep it up!

cafequeen : "You're not making Christianity better. You're making Rock n Roll worse." ~ Hank Hill, King of the Hill

MakingBabyTaylor : I wholly agree. And now I want to see Whiplash.

LDiableo : God's not dead 3? Damn how many times we finna try and kill this God guy.

Davidci Codex : I've watched a film called 'Something The Lord Made' from an English class and I expected it to be a propaganda film. Instead, it was a fantastic film which, despite its title, is surprisingly not a religious film at all. I don't think it counts as a Christian movie, but eh, just sharing. Seriously, watch it. It's really good.

Trisha Dwyer : Three words: The Bible Reloaded.

rockstarlaura : I really, really appreciate your perspective on this and your willingness to critique your own community. You're right that such sentiments shouldn't be branded as pure negativity. Criticism helps facilitate growth. These movies make atheists look terrible to Christians and Christians look terrible to atheists, so they're not witnessing to anyone nor are they helping to cultivate loving attitudes within their own community. It's nothing but "persecution porn" for Christians to feel good about themselves. Very divisive and tribal.

Miku Hinata : I'm Catholic. but if there's one thing I hate about Christain media is that they always have to shove their beliefs down your throat. I stay quiet on my beliefs because I think that a relationship with God and Jesus is a very personal one, and should only be brought up if someone asks for my imput. And as for the people who don't believe in God, I don't judge them because as Jesus said "love your brother", that and it's not my place to judge because it's their life, not mine, it doesn't affect me.

raiorai2 : In Brazil, only 13% of the people would vote on an atheist. And they want me to belive that the majority of them are loving and kind.

Corvus Corax : i saw the 2nd "God is not Dead" movie, it depicts atheists as an evil organization that wants to kill god, like comic book villains

Gabriel C. : I think most christian movies are disgusting and simply video sermons like you said. But I have to admit October Baby was beautifully made. It has nice photography, nice soundtrack and nice plot. It even has a superb acting performance by Rachel Hendrix. It’s a drama with a bit of romantic comedy. Since then I’ve been waiting for a nice movie like that made by the same directors, but none of the pieces they released after that is as good as October Baby.

Jeremy M : VeggieTales tho, that show was the shit

The Doc Jay : A lot of Christian music or Christian films are not good. It is because it is a niche community who are limited by who they have to work with. However I don't it is because it is Christian. I think the same problem exists in political films and other religions or whichever closed group you come across.

Hikaru Mimiki : make the bible into a shounen anime series. problem solved. You got an actually interesting story abo various characters like the kid who kills the cyclops with a brain and a slingshot. david and goliath. (Practically one of the few stories i truly remember as a summary) Im not a religious

Summer Player : Yes i agree with his standpoints. But the one i agree with most is when he says the Christians are sometimes and most times the worst. I'm a Christian myself and i see this day to day. Christians think they are better than others so they act terrible, they say atheist are the worst when its not and it makes me mad. We are people and no one is perfect. No one is better than the other. And yes its okay to critique Christian music and movies. The only different they have from others is that they talk about religion which yes is a touchy subject; but everyone has free will to speak. And if someone gets offended by that then they are the ones with the mindset that Christians are better but they're not. We are all equal.

Breaking In The Habit : I really appreciate this video and your perspective. I think you put it perfectly that they are video sermons rather than works of art. That makes a huge difference. As a Catholic, I think this is why Catholic movies tend to be of a much higher quality than Evangelical ones. Theological differences aside, they come from a history of appreciation of art and so seek to be art themselves. Look at movies like The Mission, Silence, The Way, and Babette’s Feast; heck, look at something like The Lord of the Rings, written by a Catholic and filled with Christian imagery and theology. These things seek to make good art inspired by their faith, rather than trying to make a sermon visual. It makes all the difference. Thanks for a great video!