Why Christian Movies are BAD | The Problem with Christian Media - Part 2

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Sean Paul Murphy : As the screenwriter of a number of PureFlix films, I could hardly agree more with your perspective. I grew up watching indie films of the 80s and 90s, those filmmakers managed to make art with small budgets because they had a passion for the medium. It's not the budgets. It is a disregard for the art of filmmaking. And faith films will not get better until the audience demands something better, but they tend to evaluate films solely on the message itself. As for the counterproductive hatred of atheists and other non-believers, I tried to buck that trend. In Hidden Secrets, the first film produced by PureFlix (but its second release), my co-writer and I sought to create a fuller, more sympathetic portrayal, and, if the following review is any indication, we succeeded: "But don't dismiss Hidden Secrets as The Big Chill rewritten from a Christian perspective. It has the nerve to make one of its most appealing characters, a stem-cell researcher played by John Schneider, an atheist and the least appealing a scripture-spouting hypocrite. While its proscriptive tendencies might not sit well with some moviegoers, it does strive to distinguish between sinner and sin. Even the death merchant and the homosexual - played by Arkansan Corin Nemec - are worthy of love and respect; it's their actions that God despises." Nowadays, however, the audience reward films that fight the Culture War for them. It is easier to generate anger than compassion. I have no interest in that. As for the muddled purpose of Christian films, I think you will appreciate my recent blog: http://seanpaulmurphyville.blogspot.com/2017/09/building-faith-based-film-ghetto.html

SerMortzio : It's genuinely pleasant to see a Christian actually noticing that these films are blatant propaganda and the portrayal of atheists is ridiculous. Good video :)

Bombalurina : Christian films are like porn. Bad acting, poorly shot, and shouoldn't be shown to children.

TurtleKing777 : Bruce Almighty proves that you can make good Christian movies. That aren’t extremely boring, and still get the message across love God and love and the stress of them are really lives and the power he has in those lives Edit: OH AND THE PRINCE OF EYGPT I ALMOST FORGOT THAT ONE! THE MOVIE I MAKE EVEN MY ATHEIST FRIENDS FALL IN LOVE WITH FOR ITS BEAUTY

Kibure : I'm an atheist, but even I can't help but feel nostalgic for the Veggie Tales movies... They were just... fun to watch.

Miku Hinata : I'm Catholic. but if there's one thing I hate about Christain media is that they always have to shove their beliefs down your throat. I stay quiet on my beliefs because I think that a relationship with God and Jesus is a very personal one, and should only be brought up if someone asks for my imput. And as for the people who don't believe in God, I don't judge them because as Jesus said "love your brother", that and it's not my place to judge because it's their life, not mine, it doesn't affect me.

Moving Parts Gaming : I clicked on this expecting a brutal take down of Christian movies. I was pleasantly surprised by tone and view of the situation.

LDiableo : God's not dead 3? Damn how many times we finna try and kill this God guy.

Dan Mqng : Every once and a while YouTube's recommended gets it right

Jennifer Eidson : If i can add that in God's Not Dead, they show the athiest as someone who believes in the christian god enough to think god is dead. When actually athiest have an absence of belief in the existance of a god or gods/goddesses.

Alex Pollino : i think gods not dead was made for christians to have a circle jerk over and the fact that they portray atheists as immoral people who actually belive in god but just dont like god like what? can christians not comprehend someone not believing in anything?

Roll Like A Buffalo O_O : The only good Christian movies to me are Prince of Egypt and Joseph, King of Dreams. Thats it.

Sandwich God : I'm a Christian myself, but I still don't like the portrayal of atheists in these films. Most atheists are not evil, God-hating, satanic people. Then, the christians are good, wholesome people who can do no wrong, but even we make mistakes.

Jon Raquet : I used to be a christian, and it was people like the ones booing at the newsboys concert that ultimately ended being the nail in the coffin of my belief in god. I wish more christians shared your sentiments.

ErrorErrorino Kripperino : Even as a Catholic I accept that Christian movies are bad.

troykv96 : I had a strange relationship with Christiniaty; I respect Jesus a lot; but the religion itself... I can't.

chrisw443 : Great video, from an atheist, thanks for not hating me, I take pride in making sure everyone can practice whatever religion they want. :)

Lola Lou : So glad someone made this video. I am a Christian and a film addict! My nana always wants to go see the latest “Christian flick.” Of course I go because I love my sweet Nana, but I normally cringe for around an hour and a half. I leave outraged because I feel like Christians should be doing better!

StarmanGhost : "All art is propaganda, but not all propaganda is art." -George Orwell

Desventuras gastronômicas : Catholics making movies = Mel Gibson's The passion of the Christ. Protestants making movies = those.

Hikaru Mimiki : make the bible into a shounen anime series. problem solved. You got an actually interesting story abo various characters like the kid who kills the cyclops with a brain and a slingshot. david and goliath. (Practically one of the few stories i truly remember as a summary) Im not a religious

Pranav Dhilip : "I would like to start off by establishing that film...is an art form." *cuts to Interstellar. Well played, sir. Well played. *Cue admiring applause

Djevel tilbeder : As an atheist and a type of person many "Christians" in my state (Texas) think are abominations, it isn't hard to see Christian media, Pureflix being a great example, as anything but propaganda to push a message that is losing its footing. They are poorly made, badly acted schlock. Troma films are more entertaining. I don't hate Christians. I don't hate religion. What I hate is being told how I'm evil despite living in a manner that harms no one else and wanting only the same rights as every other person in my country. Which is sadly the message of a lot of these pieces of media. Oppressed peoples gaining equal rights is not persecution of your rights.

bunnyfreakz : Nacho Libre literally the best Christian movie.

Kaila Y : 12:57 Whoa. What an eye-opening notion. I never booed at the atheist professor but I remember going to Winter Jam once and people were very vocal about their dislike for the character. I can totally see how an unbeliever would feel attacked by this behavior. I definitely would. What does the way we portray/see atheists say about us and who we are? Jesus told us to love. This kind of behavior just misrepresents everything Christians are supposed to embody.

Titus : Just saw the movie Second Glance, It was so bad, I converted Praise Cthulhu

Eagle J. : As an intellectual, the best Christian movies are the Veggie Tales movies.

VU IBG : How dare you suggest a movie based on god's word is not perfect? Demons & atheists are possessing innocent people & making them give bad reviews on Rotten Tomatoes!!!!!!1111! LOL, or so I'm told...

Pam Wonderful : Hey bro, I'm completely non religious/spiritual in every way imaginable but wanted to say I found this very insightful. I have respect for any person who can put aside bias to critique art for it's artistic value. Great video, keep it up!

Jamin Schmitt : I don't watch Christian movies simply because I feel that the majority of them insult my intelligence. Preachy, watered down, generic, you name it. The execution is simplistic and the characters are unrelatable. If I were watching one of these films with a friend that is an agnostic or atheist I'd hide in shame. The Body of Christ seems to be lacking in regards to talented individuals that know how to make a film. From the music to the lighting. From the direction to the acting. There's nothing that stands out.

OriginalTharios : It would help if the Bible weren't the worst collection of badly edited ripoffs of other cultures in all of history. I mean...most mythology is just irredeemably silly to begin with, but the judeo-christian religions took it to another level entirely. There just aren't any good stories within the associated books, and there are no good stories that can be told about people who are mentally deficient enough to believe they're in any way historically accurate. That they're poorly made movies is just the icing on the cake. It's not possible to make a good movie, out of a bad story.

The Tree in Spring Day : I'm Christian... but I actually agree with u...every Christian movie that I watched seemed so unreal to me...

Soundwave 84 : I am a christain and i also find many christain movies and media to be bad (except for Veggie Tales). My family likes the moves Fire Proof, Facing the Giants, and Couragous. Of all of the christian movies out there, these 3 bother me the least. But then we get the God's Not Dead movies. I was so shocked the athiests are protrayed in these movies. They get incredibly hostile to Christians because reasons, and yes there are some extreme athiests out there, but they are very rare. I have friends in school who are athiest and fully aware im a Christian, but in the end we get along very well despite different beliefs. I dont understand why so many christains defend these lousy excuses of movies. Spreading the light of Jesus through movies can work like in I Can Only Imagine, but most of the time its poorly executed amd feels like propadangda.

Jean Luc : Passion of the Christ, Hacksaw Ridge, The Promise are the good newish ones

The_Boosker : I agree. I wish there was more to these films. They lack depth. Almost all non-Christian characters are one-dimensional. I would love to see a Christan movie where the main Chrisitan character learns that they aren't always right, questions and grows. It isn't wrong to criticize one's faith since it could prove growth. Something like 'Prince of Egypt' that shows that every character is faulty but the main character (Moses) done a lot of growth after struggling with himself and God. He still loves his adoptive brother and it hurts him to go against him. Ramses is humanized despite not being Jewish. I wish they (the Christian film industry) take note. Have your main character have flaws. Let them question and struggle. Have non-Christian characters have depth.

SpringInFialta : Jesus is the Light, but most Christian movies can't even get the lighting right.

sportsygirl8 : You brought up some great points, but you really hit the nail on the head about an Atheist going to a Newsboys concert and experiencing the booing, that can change or confirm their thoughts about other Christians. I have been to a lot of Newsboys concerts and there may have been 2 times people were doing what you explained, I for one do not do that because I feel that isn't right to do so, when they play the trailer for the movie I cheer because I love the song God's Not Dead and get excited that they're doing that song, plus I actually like the God's Not Dead movies as well.

Christopher OBrien : The kind of mentality these movies preach is part of the reason that despite beleiveing in a higher power, I don’t go to church and probably never will again, as anytime I hear a sermon or someone talking positively about a faith I have I fear that I might buy the propaganda hidden within if I am uncritical for even a second. Evangelical Christians fucking killed my enthusiasm for my own religion.

Tony3Productions : That part about the Kendrick Brothers annoyed me. “We are preachers, not filmmakers. We just use film to preach.” Ummm what? If you don’t have a love for the art form, then you have no business being involved with the creation of it. Period. Essentially they admitted that they’re going through the motions when it comes to the film aspect, which is disgusting.

Adam Tatti : You know, for a religion that says all are welcome, these movies really are close-minded. I’m a Catholic and I hate these kinds of movies with a passion.

Thatcher Nap : Christian films should be good, even for atheists like myself. Read Mere Christianity or listen to a Billy Graham sermon, the emotions they talk about are transcendent, regardless of if it's true or not. The raw material is there, and in almost every good film we feel love for people we don't love, we feel passion for things we don't care about in real life. It's a damn shame, and I'd watch a good Christian film at the theatre in a heartbeat

Dustin La Wheat : In general, I've noticed that any movie that uses 'God' as a plot device; Solving a problem without solving the problem, pushing the plot forward, miraculous deus ex machina, are not good. It's a copout for sloppy writing and lack of plot development. In contrast, you can have movies where 'God' as a concept is actually very effective, i.e. the Conjuring movies. Religion isn't shoved down the viewers throat in those movies, and it's not brought up unless necessary like when they explain why non-catholics don't perform exorcisms. Of course it's all absurd in terms of concrete writing and world building but this is just a quick idea to see what I'm talking about.

Peter Virden : Idk man I thought Human Centipede was pretty good

Sid Tree : As a non Christian, I was looking forward to see “god’s not dead” until I actually saw it and it had that “we are the only ones right and everyone else is wrong” attitude and I completely hated it. Something can be about god without hating on others beliefs

cafequeen : "You're not making Christianity better. You're making Rock n Roll worse." ~ Hank Hill, King of the Hill

Jeremy M : VeggieTales tho, that show was the shit

MakingBabyTaylor : I wholly agree. And now I want to see Whiplash.

Jonathan Parlane : Agreed, but dude, sermons should also be THE BEST ART possible. Theology void of good art and creativity is weak theology.

Adrian Garcia : As a Christian who has grown up watching such movies, I agree with you. In some of the movies I've seen, the Christians in the movies are preaching love whist showing hate with their actions. Personally, I think your view and overall tone is one we don't see much now and is extremely eye-opening.

Formoka : Perhaps we should rewrite that quote from Bambi. If you can't say something nice, say something constructive as politely as you can.