Watchmen Club Issue 2 - Absent Friends - Recap & discussion

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#WatchmenClub is an interactive book club hosted by Comic Book Girl 19 where participants read The Watchmen Graphic Novel and discuss it once-a-week over 6 weeks LIVE on Twitch on Sundays starting February 4th, 2018. Session 1 will cover the 1st two issues, Session 3 will cover the next 2 issues, etc. ► Become a Member of Team 19 and 'Pay-What-You-Want' to receive exclusive video content and early access to episode releases. http://www.patreon.com/comicbookgirl19 Thanks to Team 19 Members contributions on Patreon we are now an AD-FREE channel for 2017! ►Twitter: https://twitter.com/cbgirl19 ►Instagram: http://instagram.com/comicbookgirl19 ►Website: http://www.comicbookgirl19.com ►Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Comicbookgirl19 ►Twitch: https://go.twitch.tv/comicbookgirl19 ► Production Credits: Directed by Tyson Wheeler X - @TysonXIX Edited by Tyson Wheeler ► Music Credits: Dat Beat Stringer Bells by Dat Beat Music Stock Music by www.Audioblocks.com Stock Footage by Videoblocks.com Stock Photos by Shutterstock images Stock Music by www.Audiomicro.com

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Roberto Teniente : I'm really hyped for this bookclub Clair. Love Watchmen. Looking forward for all the next sessions. Hi from Mexico.😍

Dave Anderson : I don't understand the hate for Laurie. There's always mother-daughter tension, so I don't see the reason to vilify just one side. Beyond that though, I can understand Laurie's frustration with what she views as her mother's old-fashioned willingness to stay quiet and play the part of the door mat. From Laurie's perspective, her mother never complained about being used and abused by men who took advantage of her sexuality -- a husband / manager who made money off putting her in a ridiculously revealing completely impractical "super-hero" costume, and a "hero" who her mother allows the world to continue to think of as a "hero" because she won't speak out about him violently and brutally beating her and attempting to rape her. And then, worst of all, Laurie feels her mother pimped her out as the new hot young thing to keep the family business going. Laurie also resents that she's stuck in her mother's pin-up girl shadow no matter what she does. Unlike her mother, she actually developed fighting skills and actually fought crime. Doesn't matter, she's Sally Jupiter's daughter, so she's just the pretty girl, too. And then, despite all her efforts to be different then her mother, she ends up just being the girl whose sexuality keeps Dr. Manhattan tethered to reality. I'm sure Laurie beats herself up about finding herself in the same box her mother ended up in, but I can tell she also has resentment towards her mother for putting them both on the same path. On a totally different note, the faces-clocks thing pops up in a major way with the Comedian this issue. Blake's face is sliced into a permanent doomsday clock foreshadowing the blood-spattered button. Now, his face can't be a mask that hides that reality behind a joke any more and he has to hide his face behind an actual mask.

Xenodroid : Great video, you've given me a lot to think about this with this book, lot's of things you discussed I didn't pick up on my first read. The only thing I would suggest is a bit of a cooler set up for these streams, I loved how cool you guys made the Dune Club set with the chair and glowing orbs, it really helped set the mood for the topic of discussion and felt like it added some production value to the book club. Maybe you could add like a Doomsday Clock that changes hours depending on the chapter you're reviewing or something. Anyways, just some friendly advice, and of course if you don't have the money don't feel obligated to do anything unnecessary. Thanks if you read this.

edward2962 : Laurie was written to a bitter person. She was kind of forced into a lifestyle that her mother chose for her. And when the Keene Act was passed she ends up as you a "kept woman" for a being that was slowly losing his humanity. At the point where we meet her in the story, she's been lonely and regretful for years, but obviously doesn't know what to do about her life ( until Dan comes around).

cboehm24 : Another comment on the Pagliacci joke, while this has very little (if nothing) to do with the opera. Once of the ideas of the joke is that it is the responsibility of the clown to make people laugh. The clown is the professional who holds that responsibility on his shoulders. But that ignores the needs and humanity of the clown himself. We rely upon the clown to make us laugh, but his sadness is not our concern. Who makes the clown laugh? Similarly, the entire point of the book, the very titular point, is "who watches the watchmen?" Who protect us from our protectors? Similarly, who saves our saviors? Unlike the simple superheroes of yesterday, these heroes are complex humans who sometimes need saving, and sometimes need to be watched. Qui rem ferro rusticus risu?

junior ruiz : Flattering huh, comic book girl 19 tijuana bibles for sale on my site Tbd.

Joshua James : Everybody go out and tell somebody they're "crazier than a snakes armpit!"

Ryan Jurgens : I'm really glad I'm re-reading this. Things like Rorschach's non-crazy word balloon and lettering during that first meeting of the Crimebusters... I feel dumb saying it, but I'd swear it's the first time I noticed that. And part of me is super-happy not to remember crap like that from the first few times I'd read Watchmen, just so I can be surprised by it now, you know?

Phil Robichaud : Hey there! Great videos so far - true confession i didn't get a Watchmen Club pack because i'm broke/cheap - but i love your content and will probably sign up for you Patreon :) I've never read this graphic novel (i know right?!) but am loving it so far - Rorschach is by far the most intriguing character.

Paul Peart-Smith : I don't agree with your reading of Laurie at all. She's spoilt yes, but she grows throughout the story.

Wolfgod : Laurie is supposed to be unlikable, as are most of the characters.

Xaoc2sqaure : Great video! Thanks for explaining stuff I always wondered about, like the Pagliacci stuff. Keep 'em coming!

Connor Swanson : Ditto on the faces going out of style! I’ve always wondered why people look so different now than in the ‘50s and ‘60s. It could be fashion, but i think there’s more to it. Also is it just me or does everyone our generation look really young? I know a 30 year old who looks younger than me. It’s like impossible to guess age lol

Todd Hollis : Great Video CBG19, love the Watchman and I love hearing your take on it. Keep up the amazing work (both of you!)

Jason Jerome : Will you ever take on the fourth kind, the owls, moloch and baphomet? Or are you one? Illumi not us? Or may son maybe? Or...? Chaos queen Quentin Quire omega level?

Jason Jerome : And if I may say, I always liked Allison Blair...darlin dani dazzler. Use the funding and Phoenix force to surmount ....

Hanif Muhammad : This is a fascinating in depth look at Watchmen. I just adore it. Great discussion Comic Book girl.

Ernie Burns : I am increasingly impressed by Comic Girl 19's philosophical appreciation of the superverse. Light and peace.

Chris Ferguson : I love this so much!! Btw, I know you're super against it, but Darwyn Cooke's Minutemen is just fantastic.

RenDi Supertramp : I don’t think was being lenient with Moloch. It’s just that Rorschach’s moral compass isn’t guided by law, but by what he deems as dangerous . I think he deems the company dispensing the fake pills as dangerous but the act of taking them is only dangerous to himself. He only threatened at first for leverage. IMO.

Ang 92 : Are you calling yourself "a love godess"? CAUSE HELL YEAH

SPECS : Now they're some sad things known to man But ain't too much sadder than: The tears of a clown when there's no one around, uh Just like Pagliacci did I try to keep my surface hid Smiling in the crowd I try But in my lonely room I cry The tears of a clown When there's no one around, oh yeah, baby Now if there's a smile on my face Don't let my glad expression Give you the wrong impression Don't let this smile I wear Make you think that I don't care 'Cause really I'm sad, 🙏💚

Hafa Ball : Reading through I've been giving the character's different voices in my head. Dr. Manhattan is HAL-9000, Veidt is Loki, Rorschach is Marv from Sin City, and Laurie is.... Cartmen XD

Nathan Czochara : Hey curious if you think the Laurie/Sally kinda parallels the SJW and metoo movement that's happening now? I'm not condoning sexual harassment or anything but the splitting of hairs and microscoping of this degradegation of women like you said is kinda putting people in the victim box. Just curious on your thoughts. This is why I love comics, I feel like it opens up a larger conversation better than any other medium.

enzyme 2000 : Thank you CBG19! Love this!

Toti-H : The Doctor Manhattan Girl 19 logo looks a lot like Captain Planet :D

mindthegapmindthegap : One of the more disturbing aspects about Watchmens legacy in recent years is how idealized The Comedian and Rorschach have become to readers. It could not be more clear Alan Moore had one point of view of the characters and the fans have another.

Gary Welsh : I think Veidt should be pronounced like "fight."

Klarissa B : Girl, just tried Blanton's for the first time. Sooooooo good!

fort qli : love you. glad your doing this. plz do v for vendetta next or snot girl XD

QUWYKXZ : Lol, I think we need a counter on this vid for how many times you said the word "meta" :D

Josh Brown : I am loving this bookclub! I thoroughly enjoy the breakdown, history and art appreciation. I gotta say, Rorschach was at the funeral during the day, but couldn't reveal his true self because he is on the run from the law at this point. He probably was there to do surveillance of the funeral, tally who was there, survey if any 'super killers' were watching etc.. but then comes back at night to truly pay his respects. --- buuut I'm sure you don't want to give anything away! Love the bookclub, movie reviews and all the other videos! Keep up the fantastic work! Great production work tbone!

C C : Yo I'm not a fan of watch men but your vids r good. I'm waiting for that blk panther review.

javier lara : mean like this love goddes thing seems like its candy coating people diminishing their self value and not fully living to their potential. I think we just settle into archetypes because were afraid of not having an identity in a world fill of greed,exploitation,murder etc. I think both silk specters are wrong in their world views but trying to compensate for a more deeper underlying problem. I think genuine love is the only solution for something like this love for ourselves and each other.

Brandon Young : Spoiler Alert: watch Jupiter get eclipsed at the very end of the book by the comedian on the micro & macro level

Servo : I agree with you about Laurie.

waelse1 : Fun vid. Thanks for doing this, enjoying reading Watchmen again, it’s been awhile.

Samantha Jay : Thank you for teaching this comic better than my college professor. I'm actually starting to enjoy The Watchmen. Thanks!

Factual Opinion : I remember dune club sessions didn't went up on youtube as fast as watchmen club first session

Rafael Fuentes : Just finished watchmen, dune series, and midway through the dark tower series. Would love a reading list video, or any recommendations from team CBG19.

Unshelled Pity : I wonder if The Killing Joke was inspired by this exchange between the Comedian and Moloch...

roboticrevolvers : The Western World is in decline big time.

kehimeify : Amazing show, your passion for the comics is so refreshing BTW in 42 the Comedian enter war against Japan ( not Korea)Which is interesting : Korean war does not exist in the Watchmen Univers

Jason Jerome : Love the way you splain thangs.

Poison Control : saramouch do you do the fandango?

redxsage : There are a *LOT* of layers within *_The WATCHMEN_* series. They were purposely built, and reveal themselves in time. It does become necessary to go back and read sections again, especially when the same scenes are retold from another point of view. Then, just when it becomes pretty clear where things are going, the whole thing turns, twists, shifts, and accelerates toward an end that was there all along, but hidden in plain sight behind the details known to only one, well, two characters. Then it hops the rails a couple more times to ensure passage on the crazy train. There is one thing in particular that happens in the background that I wonder if you'll eventually mention. You came close to it, but seem to have decided to leave it out for now.

Ruben Sanchez : Like a literary Russian nesting doll and what you get in the end is, if in quiet desperation and confusion, a good laugh and an even better lesson about the world. Lots of love CBG19, keep it up :]

J. C. : You hate Laurie because you're supposed to. Alan Moore is a massive misogynist, or at least he was at the time of writing Watchmen, and The Killing Joke, and V for Vendetta.

Matthew Mohri : I didn't notice the costumes of robot, space brain, your cat, etc. in the first review but I did a few minutes ago and laughed my ass off. LOL.