ED SHEERAN VS. MARVIN GAYE LAWSUIT: Let's Compare!

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In this video, we discuss the $100 million lawsuit faced by singer Ed Sheeran with his song "Thinking Out Loud", which the suit alleges borrowed elements from Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On". RICK BEATO SUMMER MASTERCLASS → https://bit.ly/2JA5Wzh BUY THE BEATO BOOK HERE → http://bit.ly/2uTQFlo Follow my Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rickbeato1/ **Advanced Harmonic Concepts for Composition and Improvisation Video Course** → www.flatfiv.com SUBSCRIBE HERE → http://bit.ly/2eEs9gX BEATO MUSIC FORUM → forum.rickbeato.com —————————————————————————————————————— My Links to Follow: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/RickBeato Personal Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rick.beato.1 Follow On Twitter - @rickbeato www.nuryl.com

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MR. $p@cely : Anthony Bourdain needs to sue you for stealing his look.

KhalDrogo76 : Groove and chords don’t make a song lyrics and melody do....otherwise every D C G song written a million times over is plagiarism which is foolish

Master Blaster : marvin gaye probably "influenced" his birth

Matt Brady : That is such a basic sound anyone could stumble on their own.. even if it was something complex copied you can’t claim time signatures and chords. That’s like claiming a combination of blue red and yellow in a painting can’t be used by other painters. This kind of thing is bad for the music community/industry imo

Jason Bone : Just a heads up, I have copyright on 130 BPM.

lucky4liveHawaii : Listen to Ed thinking ‘alright, this is pretty good’. Then Marvin comes on sounding like steak and honey wine and I realize Ed is microwave popcorn.

Mark Ruby : These cases should be decided by a judge and jury of professional-level musicians who are independent thinkers. Your typical judge, with joe sixpack jury, can be easily swayed by any silver tongued lawyer. The songs really arent the same, nevertheless, the Blurred Lines outcome will likely be repeated until this legal serfdom is fixed.

Ro F : The real problem is complexity. The simpler something is, the less "unique" it is. I can make a more unique melody out of 20 notes then I can 5 notes. Gaye's original song is so SIMPLE that it lends itself to being copied out of sheer accessibility in creating a likewise simple song. It's like if clothing was copyrighted and I sued for someone else wearing jeans and a t-shirt. They are the most BASIC, SIMPLE items and are so much more likely to be copied then if someone was wearing a vest with robe underneath and a basket on their head.

Martillo, Yunke y Estribo : I never think of Marvin when I hear "thinking out loud". This is becoming in something ridiculous.

trollstjerne : Its time for all the people in the Top 20 list to start suing each others, cause they all sound the same to me.

Space Commander Fox : Sound is a force of nature Humans copyright nature This will only get worse

Leo Rautenberg : Next up, lil pump gets sued because l'esketit means let's get it.

Joe Yamin : Of course they are similar. So are the multiple I, IV, V and I,VI II, V progression in so much music. How many lawsuits do you want?

Carvin 69thinline : Are there any other songs that compare as similarly to "Let's Get It On" or is Sheeran just a more lucrative target?

Asanda Ndimande : I am going to sue every human on this planet for breathing like me since they are plagiarizing my breathing style of inhale and exhale. I will see you all in court😎

Albert Weijers : Ed Sheeran had major hits before this song, so now he suddenly starts copying songs? When I heard Thinking out Loud I never thought of Let's Get It on. Although I know it. I've written a lot of songs myself. Put some chords together, add a melody and ready. Do I have to check all of Spotify to see If someone out there perhaps used the same "ingredients"? Ridiculous.

Susan Weissman : I agree with the dissenting judge....a dangerous precedent has been set which does not benefit any musician/composer but only benefits the few large concerns which own most of the music rights. This is not about the rights of the individual composer but more about what the large corporations who own the rights but don't create a thing can get away with to increase there profit. Follows the same lines as the 5000% increase in drug costs that a company that buys "rights" pulled a few years ago. It's all about $$$. The Supreme Court has deemed money to be free speech and corporations as people … supporting the "corporate superhuman" thus squashing the individual.

Tom Walter : Yeah, they share a lot of similarities.. but one doesn't remind me of the other at all. I read and write music, play piano and have good ears.. Now, I have a really good idea for hearing songs in other songs.. I can always find a song that has similar elements and play them one after another, even if they are completely different genres. But for some reason.. Ed just does NOT remind me of Marvin at all.. That Blurred Lines rip off did remind me of the original. Look, if you ask me, you can't copyright chord progressions.. that is the building block for all music. However, melody is the very individual parts.. the house number, the street address, the paint colour etc.. How could you write a new song ever again if you can't use chord progression already used. Melody, however.. that's where the originality is. This court case is really important.. Leave us musicians alone to borrow, influence, steal, remix and CREATE new music!!!

Waselt : So we have 4/4 signature 4 chords Ride ride snare ride groove Same generic pop tempo I wonder where have I seen this? Oh yeah in every fucking pop song that’s out on the market. It’s not like they’ve written a musical masterpiece with constant time signature changes and different chords every two bars.

With Wilk : Well let's do an experiment. Someone at the height of the charts should make a song soo similar to thinking out loud and we'll see who sues who. You cant have it both ways.

TobyCat : Completely different melody, lyrics, and mood. Those things are dominant, and they carry more weight than the elements that match. One song does NOT make you think of the other.

Graham Hockey : Honestly--and I'm sad to admit this--the first time I heard Thinking Out Loud at the start of 2015 it got Marvin Gaye stuck in my head again. Every time I think of the song, I think of Marvin Gaye.

Andi Jibron : There are only 12 notes in scale. And music theory are finished cannot be expanded anymore since the 50's. How can't you make a real original song anymore? Song writers have influence (at least for popular music) from Beatles and Beethoven. This suit is just plain stupid

Jens Larsen : Such a slippery slope these law-suits. It's only a tool for rich companies to steal other rich companies money.

re hash : Lmao, what a ridiculous case. All that's similar is that it's got the same style of beat, which is like a standard RnB beat, featured in 100s of other RnB songs. And that chord progression is extremely common in rock and RnB. If you look back at songs from the 60s I wouldn't be surprised if you found something equally similar to Let's Get It On.

Wyatt Brownell : If this suit had any validity the estate of Robert Johnson would’ve sued every artist who’s ever done a 12 bar blues

Vladimir Todorov : I am composer and i think that lyric and melody are the most important in composition.Chord progression and arrangement follow the melody line and lyrics.

waaazup D : They do sound very similar, played in a different key but almost exactly the same

Joe S : Different key, different lyrics, different melody, different vibe. It’s a simple chord progression that has probably been used millions of times. Damn lawyers.

Xoxor : Might as well sue Marvin too for using a 17th century bass line. Music is derivative by nature, with very few notable exceptions, it has always been.

David Dice : Im old school , lyrics and melody should be the deciding factor

crabbtrixexp : if someone invented western music and the guitar today, it would be patented

jerry abbott : It's a tricky one..... I think there's actually a better case for this than the blurred lines ones. Yes,Thinking out loud is a different song and no,you can't copyright a chord sequence but the trouble comes when,not only is the chord sequence virtually the same but the groove is identical too. If it was just one then fine,it's not a problem but when you have more than one element that's the same that's where problems arise. If Ed sheeran kept the same chords but with a completely different groove then no-one would be having this conversation

Crid Games : It will be a sad day when we have people afraid to create music

WNyUpstater B : Sounds like 1/2 of Motown flavored blues.

barry brake : The second chord is a minor iii. The second chord is a I in first inversion. That's all. Everyone should have gone out for coffee after that.

MrJeffcoley1 : There are only so many musical notes, and beats in a measure. Both of these songs are musically sparse, very minimal. It’s almost to the point where any song using a drumbeat and a chord is “similar” enough to sue over. “Blurred Lines” was a travesty as well.

Dead Light : I have a copyright on playing Dream Theater at 1.25x because then it stops being a guy selling me a new car and gains some balls

Jared Cook : If this is copyright infringement, drummers and bass players need to start getting royalties.

Tim Moran : Huh, a lot of blues use the same Rythms. I guess ZZ TOP Steve Ray like bands etc should quit... I guess talk to the lawyers who defended rapids in the 80s when they were literally stealing riffs but remixing them without the artists consent. There would be no such thing as Beastie Boys Run-DMC etc.

Miguel Mesa : Hi Rick from an experience musician point of view this is wrong what they are trying to do to Ed Sheeran you can not copywrite a style of music neither the title of a song there are so many blue songs that sound the same not only the harmony and the rhythm but even the melody and in many cases the lyrics yet no body say anything, the same thing goes for country music style, rock music style, Rap music style etc. what makes a song original is the melody and the lyrics.

E Higgins : On behalf of all other birds I'm filing a lawsuit against the mockingbird.

John Bicycle : What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9 New International Version

Emmanuel Florac : Let someone copyright the famous "4 chords". Hilarity ensues. This is asinine.

Daniel Robinson : That second chord in the progression has a "lifting" effect in Sheeran's, and a minor "mellowing" effect in Gaye's. They're different.

lester andes : Can you make a review of the Verve's "Bitter Sweet Symphony" vs. The Rollingstones? Thanks.

NuclearSake : 5:22 Gayes. I replayed that 5 times and lost my breath laughing every time. Immature? Without a doubt. Worth it? Is anything? Sure why not

The Beat Clinic : I’m gonna sample both these tracks right from your video and not give any of you credit. Sue if you want but I got no money! Just like a wise man once said, “ tongue my balls!”

S4 Dreamland : Marvin's " family" have made more money on lawsuits than Marvin made in his career.. They must have a group of 500 people scanning radio stations around the world 24/7 looking for the odd note Marvin might have used in his songs .. They're relentless. RIP Marvin!!